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Question on Chess Visualization

Hey guys, im struggling with visualization in chess rn

To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this:

When you visualize moves, in your mind, do you actually see the whole board clearly in your head. And I mean the ENTIRE board. each square, its colour, each piece. And when you move the pieces, do you still continue to see the clear picture in your head?

For me, I am always struggling with this, mainly because when I try to visualize myself, rather than seeing the entire board or position as a whole in my brain, I am only seeing a part of the board, like a small chunk, for example when attacking the king, I only see the white king and the pieces around it. I don't see the entire board.

Due to this, I miss a lot of defensive resources, especially those from long diagonals by rooks, bishops, queens etc.

Another thing I resonate with in chess visualization is in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LF0uyWAxx7Y

For those who R too lazy, its about the players not being able to 'see' the board, not visually and how for the narrator its more so of 'taking a break, seeing the board in another way.. kind of sort of seeing it', whereas the top players are actually able to see the board vividly.

And also because of not being able to see the board as a whole, when I calculate, I find myself mostly thinking more about the moves themselves, rather than actually updating them on the board and seeing how it looks like. I can explain better through this example:

https://lichess.org/training/IA3c8

In this chess puzzle here, my solution (wrong) was to play:
fxe5 Bxe5
fxef Qxe5
Qxf3 Kf1
Rf8
I believed that the only plausible answer was Kf1 and though I didnt really see a clear ending for black here I believed that I was winning after Rf8.
I did consider Qg3 but believed there to be Qh1 mate. Because of only being able to visualize a part of the board, I totally missed that making this capture with my pawns in the start of the puzzles had totally exposed my king, and Qg3 came with check!

This is what I mean by thinking more about the moves themselves rather than how the position actually looks like.

For those who have faced a similar situation, please help, personally I dont really believe just doing puzzles will help with this issue, cuz I think maybe the issue is how I am visualizing in the first place.

mb for the long msg i hope atleast one person reads it

Hey guys, im struggling with visualization in chess rn To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this: When you visualize moves, in your mind, do you actually see the whole board clearly in your head. And I mean the ENTIRE board. each square, its colour, each piece. And when you move the pieces, do you still continue to see the clear picture in your head? For me, I am always struggling with this, mainly because when I try to visualize myself, rather than seeing the entire board or position as a whole in my brain, I am only seeing a part of the board, like a small chunk, for example when attacking the king, I only see the white king and the pieces around it. I don't see the entire board. Due to this, I miss a lot of defensive resources, especially those from long diagonals by rooks, bishops, queens etc. Another thing I resonate with in chess visualization is in this video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LF0uyWAxx7Y For those who R too lazy, its about the players not being able to 'see' the board, not visually and how for the narrator its more so of 'taking a break, seeing the board in another way.. kind of sort of seeing it', whereas the top players are actually able to see the board vividly. And also because of not being able to see the board as a whole, when I calculate, I find myself mostly thinking more about the moves themselves, rather than actually updating them on the board and seeing how it looks like. I can explain better through this example: https://lichess.org/training/IA3c8 In this chess puzzle here, my solution (wrong) was to play: fxe5 Bxe5 fxef Qxe5 Qxf3 Kf1 Rf8 I believed that the only plausible answer was Kf1 and though I didnt really see a clear ending for black here I believed that I was winning after Rf8. I did consider Qg3 but believed there to be Qh1 mate. Because of only being able to visualize a part of the board, I totally missed that making this capture with my pawns in the start of the puzzles had totally exposed my king, and Qg3 came with check! This is what I mean by thinking more about the moves themselves rather than how the position actually looks like. For those who have faced a similar situation, please help, personally I dont really believe just doing puzzles will help with this issue, cuz I think maybe the issue is how I am visualizing in the first place. mb for the long msg i hope atleast one person reads it

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said ^

To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this:

Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said [^](/forum/redirect/post/NOTRHguc) > To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this: Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking

@JustAChessPlayer177 said ^

To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this:

Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking

Can you explain how coordinates will help me in this case?

@JustAChessPlayer177 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/t88qMip2) > > To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this: > > Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking Can you explain how coordinates will help me in this case?

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said ^

To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this:

Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking

Can you explain how coordinates wi...

Abusing your muscle memory is the way, If you want to visualize easily, you need to know where will pieces move, which squares they go and which squares they attack, If you are very good at Coordination, you can calculate more easily, If you want it fast, I recommend 3-6 hours training with breaks or just do 1-2 hour training

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said [^](/forum/redirect/post/iBfpYHHl) > > > To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this: > > > > Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking > > Can you explain how coordinates wi... Abusing your muscle memory is the way, If you want to visualize easily, you need to know where will pieces move, which squares they go and which squares they attack, If you are very good at Coordination, you can calculate more easily, If you want it fast, I recommend 3-6 hours training with breaks or just do 1-2 hour training

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said ^

To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this:

Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking

Can you explain how coordinates wi...

I mean by abusin, I mean taking advantage of learning from mistakes, not actual abuse to it (It need breaks) If you misunderstood

@Chesss_Is_The_Life said [^](/forum/redirect/post/iBfpYHHl) > > > To the players that are better than me in rating, or consider themselves to be good at calculation or visualization, my question is this: > > > > Lichess, click learn and click "Coordination" and study it 1-2 hours a day, youre welcome, also for that... you need to solve more puzzles and more thinking > > Can you explain how coordinates wi... I mean by abusin, I mean taking advantage of learning from mistakes, not actual abuse to it (It need breaks) If you misunderstood

"Cognitive Chess: Improving Visualization and Calculation Skills" by Konstantin Chernyshov

Amazon:
This book by Russian grandmaster Konstantin Chernyshov is designed to improve your visualization and calculation skills. With 500 exercises and an additional 250 puzzles, the author provides a vast amount of material to work through for students and coaches of the game. Most exercises require the reader to go through several stages of thought, including visualizing the configuration of the pieces, evaluating the resulting positions, and finally, calculating an accurate continuation.

The regimen suggested by the author will require a disciplined approach by serious chessplayers. The exercises and puzzles start out with easy examples, but they gradually become more difficult. And all are meant to be solved without sight of the board.

"Cognitive Chess: Improving Visualization and Calculation Skills" by Konstantin Chernyshov Amazon: This book by Russian grandmaster Konstantin Chernyshov is designed to improve your visualization and calculation skills. With 500 exercises and an additional 250 puzzles, the author provides a vast amount of material to work through for students and coaches of the game. Most exercises require the reader to go through several stages of thought, including visualizing the configuration of the pieces, evaluating the resulting positions, and finally, calculating an accurate continuation. The regimen suggested by the author will require a disciplined approach by serious chessplayers. The exercises and puzzles start out with easy examples, but they gradually become more difficult. And all are meant to be solved without sight of the board.

The Re8 is a silent move which is hard to find, particularly when it is in the middle of a series of forced moves like captures and checks etc. Those line are easier to calculate but humans truncate and skip the calculation for those branches that arrive at a silent move, because we tend to think that "if it is not a forced move, then the defender can find a solution, using the available tempo" but engines do not skip anything. It is normal, even to 2500 OTB classic

The Re8 is a *silent* move which is hard to find, particularly when it is in the middle of a series of forced moves like captures and checks etc. Those line are easier to calculate but humans truncate and skip the calculation for those branches that arrive at a *silent* move, because we ***tend*** to think that "if it is not a forced move, then the defender can find a solution, using the available tempo" but engines do not skip anything. It is normal, even to 2500 OTB classic
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