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Are Lichess players better than Chess.com players?

Lichess and Chess.com are two different websites, each having their own different strengths and weaknesses, but which websites' players are better? Tbh, I think that Lichess players are better because there are more people who are good at chess on Lichess and has a lot of masters, not only GMs.

Lichess and Chess.com are two different websites, each having their own different strengths and weaknesses, but which websites' players are better? Tbh, I think that Lichess players are better because there are more people who are good at chess on Lichess and has a lot of masters, not only GMs.

Lichess players are more attractive and have less body odor, so Lichess players are better!

Lichess players are more attractive and have less body odor, so Lichess players are better!

Personally I have found Chess.com players to be stronger than Lichess ones at the same rating. For instance, while in Lichess I'm around 1600 in blitz, in Chess.com I struggle to win against players rated over 1000 in blitz. In Lichess, I feel like a player rated 1000 has just learned to move the pieces the last week.

I'm not sure if it's because Chess.com uses the ELO system and Lichess uses Glicko-2, so the ratings are not really comparable one-to-one, but it's frankly depressing to see my ratings here and then in Chess.com to struggle against players who are theoretically noobs.

Personally I have found Chess.com players to be stronger than Lichess ones at the same rating. For instance, while in Lichess I'm around 1600 in blitz, in Chess.com I struggle to win against players rated over 1000 in blitz. In Lichess, I feel like a player rated 1000 has just learned to move the pieces the last week. I'm not sure if it's because Chess.com uses the ELO system and Lichess uses Glicko-2, so the ratings are not really comparable one-to-one, but it's frankly depressing to see my ratings here and then in Chess.com to struggle against players who are theoretically noobs.

Simply put: they are two different sets of players. Hence different outcomes. There are tremendous players on both platforms, but I also play on both. Now you know that middling-mediocre (if I can go so far) players are on both sites as well. ;)

Simply put: they are two different sets of players. Hence different outcomes. There are tremendous players on both platforms, but I also play on both. Now you know that middling-mediocre (if I can go so far) players are on both sites as well. ;)

I think that a 1000 rated Lichess player is around equal to a 400 chess.com player. I think that chess.com uses something similar to USCF, where good players can be 1000 rated and masters can be around 2300.

I think that a 1000 rated Lichess player is around equal to a 400 chess.com player. I think that chess.com uses something similar to USCF, where good players can be 1000 rated and masters can be around 2300.

@danielmbcn said ^

I'm not sure if it's because Chess.com uses the ELO system and Lichess uses Glicko-2, so the ratings are not really comparable one-to-one, but it's frankly depressing to see my ratings here and then in Chess.com to struggle against players who are theoretically noobs.

Chess.com uses Glicko-1, not Elo. It's slightly different from Glicko-2, but different player pools are primarily why Chess.com players with a specific rating are stronger than Lichess players with the same rating.

@danielmbcn said [^](/forum/redirect/post/1VwLR4jj) > I'm not sure if it's because Chess.com uses the ELO system and Lichess uses Glicko-2, so the ratings are not really comparable one-to-one, but it's frankly depressing to see my ratings here and then in Chess.com to struggle against players who are theoretically noobs. Chess.com uses Glicko-1, not Elo. It's slightly different from Glicko-2, but different player pools are primarily why Chess.com players with a specific rating are stronger than Lichess players with the same rating.

@Nabhya54 said ^

I think that a 1000 rated Lichess player is around equal to a 400 chess.com player. I think that chess.com uses something similar to USCF, where good players can be 1000 rated and masters can be around 2300.

I was 800 chesscom and 1000 lichess.
I quitted chesscom because it’s bad and it maked me depressive but now I’m 1400 lichess

@Nabhya54 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/G2JRE8T6) > I think that a 1000 rated Lichess player is around equal to a 400 chess.com player. I think that chess.com uses something similar to USCF, where good players can be 1000 rated and masters can be around 2300. I was 800 chesscom and 1000 lichess. I quitted chesscom because it’s bad and it maked me depressive but now I’m 1400 lichess

@IamNOTamod said

but different player pools are primarily why Chess.com players with a specific rating are stronger than Lichess players with the same rating.

Also the starting rating plays a role. Chess.com used to have 1200 as starting rate which set norm for the pool. While lichess uses 1500.

@IamNOTamod said > but different player pools are primarily why Chess.com players with a specific rating are stronger than Lichess players with the same rating. Also the starting rating plays a role. Chess.com used to have 1200 as starting rate which set norm for the pool. While lichess uses 1500.

I think the top players play on both sites but tend to prefer chess.com for rapid and blitz, and lichess for bullet. I've no idea why as I think lichess is by far the better site! chess.com seems overly pushy with sales tactics, you can't use half the features fully without paying a subscription, and it has a sluggish UI.

I've heard ratings are slightly higher for the same person on lichess than chess.com, however I don't think that means there are better players overall, it's just using a different rating system.

I think the top players play on both sites but tend to prefer chess.com for rapid and blitz, and lichess for bullet. I've no idea why as I think lichess is by far the better site! chess.com seems overly pushy with sales tactics, you can't use half the features fully without paying a subscription, and it has a sluggish UI. I've heard ratings are slightly higher for the same person on lichess than chess.com, however I don't think that means there are better players overall, it's just using a different rating system.