@terrortoast said in #17:
Funnily, according to practice and engine the best line is 6.Bd3 Bg4 7.Be2!? which is funny because White wastes a full tempo and still seems to be fine.
Even funnier is the fact 6.Be2 Bg4!? is a respected sideline and has a better wr for black than 6.Bd3 Bg4 7.Be2 amongst lichess masters.
@terrortoast said in #17:
> Funnily, according to practice and engine the best line is 6.Bd3 Bg4 7.Be2!? which is funny because White wastes a full tempo and still seems to be fine.
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Even funnier is the fact 6.Be2 Bg4!? is a respected sideline and has a better wr for black than 6.Bd3 Bg4 7.Be2 amongst lichess masters.
@MaxxLange said in #18:
I think there is a line against KID with Bd3 and Nge2, but of course they have already played Nf3 in the positions you discuss.
This is exactly what I wanted to point out. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Bd3 0-0 6.Nge2 is a tricky line, successfully employed by numerous GMs. With the knight on e2, Bc8-g4 makes no sense, so White's minor pieces protect both d4 and e4. Compared to the Sämisch variation (5.f3, 6.Be3), White hasn't played f2-f3 (yet) and might often skip that move.
@MaxxLange said in #18:
> I think there is a line against KID with Bd3 and Nge2, but of course they have already played Nf3 in the positions you discuss.
This is exactly what I wanted to point out. 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Bd3 0-0 6.Nge2 is a tricky line, successfully employed by numerous GMs. With the knight on e2, Bc8-g4 makes no sense, so White's minor pieces protect both d4 and e4. Compared to the Sämisch variation (5.f3, 6.Be3), White hasn't played f2-f3 (yet) and might often skip that move.
Yeah, I think I learned something here. It is not directly impacting my play because I nearly avoid this with my current opening play, but it still shaped a bit my positional thinking in these kinds of positions, so, thanks for procrastinating from your Uni assignment!!
Yeah, I think I learned something here. It is not directly impacting my play because I nearly avoid this with my current opening play, but it still shaped a bit my positional thinking in these kinds of positions, so, thanks for procrastinating from your Uni assignment!!
In the same vein, I've found that after 1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 no one plays 3.Nc3, but after 1.d4 d5 2.e4 Nc6 everyone plays 3.Nc3.
In the same vein, I've found that after 1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 no one plays 3.Nc3, but after 1.d4 d5 2.e4 Nc6 everyone plays 3.Nc3.