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The White Side of Caro-Kann

@tpr said ^

And the King's Indian Attack
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044315

Isn't this the Breyer? I know Lichess calls 2.d3 the Breyer and the distinction I always made was if White plays g3 it's KIA, if not it's Breyer, but I don't know know true is that

  1. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 e5 4. Ngf3 Bd6 5.g3 — KIA
  2. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 e5 4. Ngf3 Bd6 5.d4 — Breyer
@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/wUrkd52E) > And the King's Indian Attack > https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044315 Isn't this the Breyer? I know Lichess calls 2.d3 the Breyer and the distinction I always made was if White plays g3 it's KIA, if not it's Breyer, but I don't know know true is that 1. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 e5 4. Ngf3 Bd6 5.g3 — KIA 1. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 e5 4. Ngf3 Bd6 5.d4 — Breyer

"5.d4 — Breyer"

  • 2 d3 and 5 d4 makes little sense.
    5 g3 is sound. Fischer has played it 6 times.
"5.d4 — Breyer" * 2 d3 and 5 d4 makes little sense. 5 g3 is sound. Fischer has played it 6 times.

@tpr said ^

5 g3 is sound. Fischer has played it 6 times.

I'm not arguing with that, I mean that's the main point of the opening

  • 2 d3 and 5 d4 makes little sense.

But this argument makes little sense, you can't disgard a move because it breaks "opening principles" 5.d4 is a second main line, even (poorly) played by Carlsen according to the Lichess' Masters Database. And it scores better than g3

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/YIjDVbRc) > 5 g3 is sound. Fischer has played it 6 times. I'm not arguing with that, I mean that's the main point of the opening > * 2 d3 and 5 d4 makes little sense. But this argument makes little sense, you can't disgard a move because it breaks "opening principles" 5.d4 is a second main line, even (poorly) played by Carlsen according to the Lichess' Masters Database. And it scores better than g3

Carlsen - So is speed chess.
White can afford losing a tempo with 5 d4

https://lichess.org/OBoIP7BZ#9

Carlsen - So is speed chess. White can afford losing a tempo with 5 d4 https://lichess.org/OBoIP7BZ#9