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I don't know if I'm talking nonsense, but in theory Stockfish only shows the possible best move, it doesn't show WHY? I believe that only the K-MPAS tool tells why (https://lichess.org/@/totalnoob69/blog/how-to-visualize-k-maps-analysis/eVtTXMDs)...

I don't know if I'm talking nonsense, but in theory Stockfish only shows the possible best move, it doesn't show WHY? I believe that only the K-MPAS tool tells why (https://lichess.org/@/totalnoob69/blog/how-to-visualize-k-maps-analysis/eVtTXMDs)...

@manoale60 said in #2:

I don't know if I'm talking nonsense, but in theory Stockfish only shows the possible best move, it doesn't show WHY? I believe that only the K-MPAS tool tells why (lichess.org/@/totalnoob69/blog/how-to-visualize-k-maps-analysis/eVtTXMDs)...

Thank you. In this case I completely overlooked the option of directly taking on d4 in the first game. And the Stockfish suggestion made some sense to me. White profits immediately from the rook d1 versus queen d8 on the d file.

@manoale60 said in #2: > I don't know if I'm talking nonsense, but in theory Stockfish only shows the possible best move, it doesn't show WHY? I believe that only the K-MPAS tool tells why (lichess.org/@/totalnoob69/blog/how-to-visualize-k-maps-analysis/eVtTXMDs)... Thank you. In this case I completely overlooked the option of directly taking on d4 in the first game. And the Stockfish suggestion made some sense to me. White profits immediately from the rook d1 versus queen d8 on the d file.

not wanting to abuse your good will and telling you a little about myself, I am what is called a greedy newbie, I lose not because I do not have a good understanding of the game, but because of the rush to get material, in your case it seems to me that the problem with K-MAPS is the A for mobility or the need to attack without fear...

not wanting to abuse your good will and telling you a little about myself, I am what is called a greedy newbie, I lose not because I do not have a good understanding of the game, but because of the rush to get material, in your case it seems to me that the problem with K-MAPS is the A for mobility or the need to attack without fear...

@manoale60 said in #4:

not wanting to abuse your good will and telling you a little about myself, I am what is called a greedy newbie, I lose not because I do not have a good understanding of the game, but because of the rush to get material, in your case it seems to me that the problem with K-MAPS is the A for mobility or the need to attack without fear...

I see. Well, yesterday I was looking at Zwart op wit, a book by GM Paul v/d Sterren, and I was glancing through it, intending to read more later. It reminded me of that time that I saw the GM analyzing his game after a competition chess game and I appreciated it that I heard him say that during the game he was not sure about a certain move he wanted to play. In your last remark you seem to suggest that something is either a certain color or a different color. But remember for example former world champion Tigran Petrosian, he was said to be a bit lazy, always playing extremely solid and always on the look out for any threats from the opponent on the chess board and then slowly sneaking up on an advantage to win. But what is not so well known is that Petrosian was a very good attacking player as well. If needed he would attack. So, I'm trying to say maybe you are not only a pawn grabber, maybe you will develop more qualities over time. I'm old aged myself (I looked at your profile page) and I have the impression that chess players can become more of a positional player or more of an attacking or dynamic player.

Anyway, have fun with your chess games! :)

@manoale60 said in #4: > not wanting to abuse your good will and telling you a little about myself, I am what is called a greedy newbie, I lose not because I do not have a good understanding of the game, but because of the rush to get material, in your case it seems to me that the problem with K-MAPS is the A for mobility or the need to attack without fear... I see. Well, yesterday I was looking at Zwart op wit, a book by GM Paul v/d Sterren, and I was glancing through it, intending to read more later. It reminded me of that time that I saw the GM analyzing his game after a competition chess game and I appreciated it that I heard him say that during the game he was not sure about a certain move he wanted to play. In your last remark you seem to suggest that something is either a certain color or a different color. But remember for example former world champion Tigran Petrosian, he was said to be a bit lazy, always playing extremely solid and always on the look out for any threats from the opponent on the chess board and then slowly sneaking up on an advantage to win. But what is not so well known is that Petrosian was a very good attacking player as well. If needed he would attack. So, I'm trying to say maybe you are not only a pawn grabber, maybe you will develop more qualities over time. I'm old aged myself (I looked at your profile page) and I have the impression that chess players can become more of a positional player or more of an attacking or dynamic player. Anyway, have fun with your chess games! :)

Well, I don't know how to thank you for your tip, you were very detailed, so you have an idea, before someone else gave me a tip, I just started trying to take the other person's queen with e5 or d5, I don't know why, I changed to Sicilian/English and I'm not doing too bad. The queen really is a piece like any other, being sarcastic, if it's to hunt a piece, why not the king, lol, nowadays we have fantastic tools and better than my opinion would be for you to have the opinion of the AI, how about, (https://app.chesscoach.dev/) let's see what it thinks of your game, lol.

Well, I don't know how to thank you for your tip, you were very detailed, so you have an idea, before someone else gave me a tip, I just started trying to take the other person's queen with e5 or d5, I don't know why, I changed to Sicilian/English and I'm not doing too bad. The queen really is a piece like any other, being sarcastic, if it's to hunt a piece, why not the king, lol, nowadays we have fantastic tools and better than my opinion would be for you to have the opinion of the AI, how about, (https://app.chesscoach.dev/) let's see what it thinks of your game, lol.
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@g6firste6second said in #7:

achja said in #1:

thanks for comparing the games and your thoughts, on e more idea not sure if you looked at it, after 8... d4?! there is this kind of wacky 9. Bb5 suggested by engine, to pin Nc6 to king and take d4 next turn, if black try to unpin knight or unpin queen from the d-file these natural ideas lead to disaster fairly quickly, or give white a huge positional advantage in endgame, its spicy when engine says best plan is to sac e-pawn instead then castle and hold onto d-pawn, always interested in those slightly inferior moves that can create chaos =]

@g6firste6second said in #7: > achja said in #1: > > > thanks for comparing the games and your thoughts, on e more idea not sure if you looked at it, after 8... d4?! there is this kind of wacky 9. Bb5 suggested by engine, to pin Nc6 to king and take d4 next turn, if black try to unpin knight or unpin queen from the d-file these natural ideas lead to disaster fairly quickly, or give white a huge positional advantage in endgame, its spicy when engine says best plan is to sac e-pawn instead then castle and hold onto d-pawn, always interested in those slightly inferior moves that can create chaos =]

@g6firste6second said in #8:

Thank you for sharing the 9.Bb5 idea.

@g6firste6second said in #8: Thank you for sharing the 9.Bb5 idea.