@MBurns2020 said in #20:
after d4 nf6 nc3 d5 bf4 black has a6!?
I like to play a line like 4.e3 e6 5.g4! We have very aggressive intentions here. Hans shows this line in his free course on chessable
@MBurns2020 said in #20:
> after d4 nf6 nc3 d5 bf4 black has a6!?
I like to play a line like 4.e3 e6 5.g4! We have very aggressive intentions here. Hans shows this line in his free course on chessable
e3 i can go c5, or even b5 as magnus once went
e3 i can go c5, or even b5 as magnus once went
@Noobmasterplayer123 said in #16:
I would play this opening in the memory of Daniel
That’s really touching. Danya was an incredible chess player, commentator, streamer, writer, teacher, and Jobava player. We lost all of that brilliance at once. Thank you for sharing this. Playing this opening in his memory is a wonderful way to honour his creativity and spirit.
RIP Danya
@Noobmasterplayer123 said in #16:
> I would play this opening in the memory of Daniel
That’s really touching. Danya was an incredible chess player, commentator, streamer, writer, teacher, and Jobava player. We lost all of that brilliance at once. Thank you for sharing this. Playing this opening in his memory is a wonderful way to honour his creativity and spirit.
RIP Danya
@MBurns2020 said in #22:
e3 i can go c5, or even b5 as magnus once went
c5 is actually quite a popular line, but I think if you just play 5.dxc5 and if 5...Nc6, a3-b4, and white is fine, 5...e6 Na4, and hang on to the pawn in the anti-Catalan style.
b5 I've never seen that lol, but practically it's a sound choice, need to check it out, maybe we go for h4 and g4 (after ...e6 of course)
@MBurns2020 said in #22:
> e3 i can go c5, or even b5 as magnus once went
c5 is actually quite a popular line, but I think if you just play 5.dxc5 and if 5...Nc6, a3-b4, and white is fine, 5...e6 Na4, and hang on to the pawn in the anti-Catalan style.
b5 I've never seen that lol, but practically it's a sound choice, need to check it out, maybe we go for h4 and g4 (after ...e6 of course)
@d4Nc3Bf4 said in #24:
c5 is actually quite a popular line, but I think if you just play 5.dxc5 and if 5...Nc6, a3-b4, and white is fine, 5...e6 Na4, and hang on to the pawn in the anti-Catalan style.
b5 I've never seen that lol, but practically it's a sound choice, need to check it out, maybe we go for h4 and g4 (after ...e6 of course)
dc5 i play qa5+ and head back to c7 if attacked
@d4Nc3Bf4 said in #24:
> c5 is actually quite a popular line, but I think if you just play 5.dxc5 and if 5...Nc6, a3-b4, and white is fine, 5...e6 Na4, and hang on to the pawn in the anti-Catalan style.
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> b5 I've never seen that lol, but practically it's a sound choice, need to check it out, maybe we go for h4 and g4 (after ...e6 of course)
dc5 i play qa5+ and head back to c7 if attacked
@MBurns2020 said in #25:
dc5 i play qa5+ and head back to c7 if attacked
Bxb8 Rxb8 Qd4 Looks decent ...e6 b4
@MBurns2020 said in #25:
> dc5 i play qa5+ and head back to c7 if attacked
Bxb8 Rxb8 Qd4 Looks decent ...e6 b4
my file ends after that, blacks plan could be Nd7-b6 too but its equal
my file ends after that, blacks plan could be Nd7-b6 too but its equal
I really don't think Jobava is especially a good fit for someone who hates theory. If anything, Nc3 is anti-positional to the extent that the opening is justified (i.e. not worse for White) by concrete ideas. For example, 3...e6 4.e3?! (most common move on Lichess, at 2200+ rapid+classical) Bb4 and White already scores very poorly, and his crime was playing a perfectly natural developing move.
Sure, it's a sideline (though a pretty well known one nowadays, it's not a mystery to people like it was maybe five years ago) so people will generally have worse prep for it than for big mainlines, but 1: you don't really need to memorize anything anyway in most sound, principled openings, and 2: most sub-masters have little to no prep for you to deal with anyway.
I really don't think Jobava is especially a good fit for someone who hates theory. If anything, Nc3 is anti-positional to the extent that the opening is justified (i.e. not worse for White) by concrete ideas. For example, 3...e6 4.e3?! (most common move on Lichess, at 2200+ rapid+classical) Bb4 and White already scores very poorly, and his crime was playing a perfectly natural developing move.
Sure, it's a sideline (though a pretty well known one nowadays, it's not a mystery to people like it was maybe five years ago) so people will generally have worse prep for it than for big mainlines, but 1: you don't really need to memorize anything anyway in most sound, principled openings, and 2: most sub-masters have little to no prep for you to deal with anyway.
@Numerot said in #28:
I really don't think Jobava is especially a good fit for someone who hates theory. If anything, Nc3 is anti-positional to the extent that the opening is justified (i.e. not worse for White) by concrete ideas. For example, 3...e6 4.e3?! (most common move on Lichess, at 2200+ rapid+classical) Bb4 and White already scores very poorly, and his crime was playing a perfectly natural developing move.
Sure, it's a sideline (though a pretty well known one nowadays, it's not a mystery to people like it was maybe five years ago) so people will generally have worse prep for it than for big mainlines, but 1: you don't really need to memorize anything anyway in most sound, principled openings, and 2: most sub-masters have little to no prep for you to deal with anyway.
Hello, and thank you for your post,
Yes, I know Jobava is not completely theory-free as you're saying, but at least compared to other openings, there are fewer lines to prepare, like say the Catalan, there you have to prepare against the Nimzo, QGD, Slav, which is of 4 types, KID, Grunfeld, etc.
Here we have a lot less to prepare, and personally, as a Jobava Player, I almost always get quick development, and even if I get surprised, I can play without any problems.
You said in the Bb4 line, white does poorly, it's not because they played the e3 move, it's because they made mistakes in the middlegame. Games are not lost in the opening but in the middlegame and endgame. And yes, the opening is not a popular one and not something that Super-GMs would play regularly at their level, but it's still an aggressive and powerful opening at the club level, and its beauty lies in how dynamic positions you get and how well you attack your opponent..
And True that it may be "Anti-Positional" or something that the engine doesn't like, but how many times do we play like the engine or evaluate like the engine? Seldom! :)
@Numerot said in #28:
> I really don't think Jobava is especially a good fit for someone who hates theory. If anything, Nc3 is anti-positional to the extent that the opening is justified (i.e. not worse for White) by concrete ideas. For example, 3...e6 4.e3?! (most common move on Lichess, at 2200+ rapid+classical) Bb4 and White already scores very poorly, and his crime was playing a perfectly natural developing move.
>
> Sure, it's a sideline (though a pretty well known one nowadays, it's not a mystery to people like it was maybe five years ago) so people will generally have worse prep for it than for big mainlines, but 1: you don't really need to memorize anything anyway in most sound, principled openings, and 2: most sub-masters have little to no prep for you to deal with anyway.
Hello, and thank you for your post,
Yes, I know Jobava is not completely theory-free as you're saying, but at least compared to other openings, there are fewer lines to prepare, like say the Catalan, there you have to prepare against the Nimzo, QGD, Slav, which is of 4 types, KID, Grunfeld, etc.
Here we have a lot less to prepare, and personally, as a Jobava Player, I almost always get quick development, and even if I get surprised, I can play without any problems.
You said in the Bb4 line, white does poorly, it's not because they played the e3 move, it's because they made mistakes in the middlegame. Games are not lost in the opening but in the middlegame and endgame. And yes, the opening is not a popular one and not something that Super-GMs would play regularly at their level, but it's still an aggressive and powerful opening at the club level, and its beauty lies in how dynamic positions you get and how well you attack your opponent..
And True that it may be "Anti-Positional" or something that the engine doesn't like, but how many times do we play like the engine or evaluate like the engine? Seldom! :)
Heyo,nice work,u can watch a youtube channel called Alex banzea something like that I don't remember properly but u would enjoy he has interesting ideas in jobava and caro especially jobava,must watch if u like jobava and he presses every single point so we don't forget it.Its like a free course on YouTube
Heyo,nice work,u can watch a youtube channel called Alex banzea something like that I don't remember properly but u would enjoy he has interesting ideas in jobava and caro especially jobava,must watch if u like jobava and he presses every single point so we don't forget it.Its like a free course on YouTube