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Fischer vs Karpov: The Match That Never Was

@tpr said ^

Jan Timman, New In Chess magazine, The Unstoppable American, pages 46-53.

Karpov wrote in his 1992 autobiography "Karpov on Karpov: Memoirs of a Chess World Champion", p. 114.: "It was already clear that whoever won

Thanks for the source.

However, this turns out to be a second hand account of someones unproved opinion of a person who they had a personal dislike towards [Karpov disliked Korchnoi].

With no evidence as Timman admits.

Furthermore, your source does not account for your statement that 'Korchnoi named the two forced lost matches as a reason for his defection to the west after the Amsterdam tournament'.

That excerpt does not contain a passage where Korchnoi names the two forced matches as a a reason for his defection.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/7mCxDqSj) > Jan Timman, New In Chess magazine, The Unstoppable American, pages 46-53. > Karpov wrote in his 1992 autobiography "Karpov on Karpov: Memoirs of a Chess World Champion", p. 114.: "It was already clear that whoever won Thanks for the source. However, this turns out to be a second hand account of someones unproved opinion of a person who they had a personal dislike towards [Karpov disliked Korchnoi]. With no evidence as Timman admits. Furthermore, your source does not account for your statement that *'Korchnoi named the two forced lost matches as a reason for his defection to the west after the Amsterdam tournament'*. That excerpt does not contain a passage where Korchnoi names the two forced matches as a a reason for his defection.

"Bent Larsen: "“A five‐month match would be horrible for everybody involved —players, officials, journalists, readers, spectators — everybody,... The advance of chess does not depend on one person. If he does not want to play he is free to stay away from chess competition and everybody is free to fantasize about his reasons.”"

Well, he was proven right in the very next decade.

Also, if these two were famous Shogi players with the same level of fame and drama, even if it is contained in Japan, they would have been approached, if not mobbed by the fans.

"Bent Larsen: "“A five‐month match would be horrible for everybody involved —players, officials, journalists, readers, spectators — everybody,... The advance of chess does not depend on one person. If he does not want to play he is free to stay away from chess competition and everybody is free to fantasize about his reasons.”" Well, he was proven right in the very next decade. Also, if these two were famous Shogi players with the same level of fame and drama, even if it is contained in Japan, they would have been approached, if not mobbed by the fans.

"he was proven right in the very next decade"

  • Korchnoi and Karpov were evenly matched.
    Fischer had just demolished Taimanov 6-0, Larsen 6-0, Petrosian 6.5-2.5 , and Spassky 12.5-8.5, starting 0-2.
    So Fischer decided 12 game matches in 6, 6, and 9 games and a 24-game match in 21 games.
    Fischer might have won 10 games against Karpov in less than 30 games.
"he was proven right in the very next decade" * Korchnoi and Karpov were evenly matched. Fischer had just demolished Taimanov 6-0, Larsen 6-0, Petrosian 6.5-2.5 , and Spassky 12.5-8.5, starting 0-2. So Fischer decided 12 game matches in 6, 6, and 9 games and a 24-game match in 21 games. Fischer might have won 10 games against Karpov in less than 30 games.

@tpr said ^

"he was proven right in the very next decade"

  • Korchnoi and Karpov were evenly matched.

Not sure what this response has to do with their point. They were referring to the long 1984 match as validating Larsen's point. 1984 is the 'very next decade'.

I'd also like to see you give a source for your previous statement: Korchnoi named the two forced lost matches as a reason for his defection to the west after the Amsterdam tournament'.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/nop6kaNZ) > "he was proven right in the very next decade" > * Korchnoi and Karpov were evenly matched. Not sure what this response has to do with their point. They were referring to the long 1984 match as validating Larsen's point. 1984 is the 'very next decade'. I'd also like to see you give a source for your previous statement: *Korchnoi named the two forced lost matches as a reason for his defection to the west after the Amsterdam tournament'.*