Man, good that I retired atomic for a while, what the hell is happening. Honestly hearing Noz admits to cheating makes me really sad. Than this guy I have never really heard of also gets banned and Taisthuban also gets banned? This is getting really weird. Next thing we ReChesster wins AWC 2025 by getting eliminated quickly and not cheating?!?! (that would be surely hella funny)
@ArjanZS interesting conversation and thanks for sharing, definitely suspicious that he only offered you to play with the black pieces, probably trying to farm. But what in the world is that background :D don't you get distracted? :)
Nevertheless, stay safe everyone, (perhaps) until some day (far far in the future) in some atomic arena (without cheats)
@ArjanZS said in #60:
Is there full evidence that they both used engines? They have both been consistent top 10 players.
I was curious though because a few weeks before any of this I got a DM from @/bijiy asking me if I wanted to play blitz with him, so I said yes at the time he was 2150, he said he needed 2300 for a challenge from wolfram. So I said yes, and not only did he play all the games 90% accuracy or above he insisted on playing white in all games. I don't really mind too much what color I play (even though white starts better) so I agreed, when we had finished playing I played 0 games with white and I lost pretty much all of the games. It was only after I reviewed a few games that I had a suspension of his intentions, so I stopped playing. And what do you know he is in the top ten less than a week later. Coincidence? Maybe, but I became even more suspicious after his ban for cheating. This might just be because he played well in the following weeks but it was too suspicious so I thought I would share it here.
Another thing that caught my attention was after the games when I was waiting for him as he agreed to let me play white I saw a detail that I had missed earlier, when I asked him if I could play white he (in quote) " Gimme a few mins
I’ll let u play white next game don’t worry " so I said ok, then the exact same minute he replied "sorry I gotta do smth" and left me. I thought he would come back or apologize but I never heard from him again. He also stayed in the top 10 after that for a long time before being banned which I feel (maybe controversial) was deserved based off my experience.
Now to conclude this post I would like to mention that this was obviously some time ago and it could be that this has absolutely nothing to do with the AWC ban on FM bijiy, I am not sure, but I thought it would be worth mentioning here. This is just my opinion but let me know your thoughts on this.
Personally I find this a little weird because you can’t cheat in hyper but you can in blitz atomic
That’s why I figured UI would post this, because he insisted on blitz
sure, in hyper possible cheat, but is harder, than for excample, in rapid or blitz.
hmm... as for me, @natso don't cheat, normal guy...
(AS FOR ME) it's my assumption, u can mean another.
@ArjanZS said in #60:
> > > Is there full evidence that they both used engines? They have both been consistent top 10 players.
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> > > I was curious though because a few weeks before any of this I got a DM from @/bijiy asking me if I wanted to play blitz with him, so I said yes at the time he was 2150, he said he needed 2300 for a challenge from wolfram. So I said yes, and not only did he play all the games 90% accuracy or above he insisted on playing white in all games. I don't really mind too much what color I play (even though white starts better) so I agreed, when we had finished playing I played 0 games with white and I lost pretty much all of the games. It was only after I reviewed a few games that I had a suspension of his intentions, so I stopped playing. And what do you know he is in the top ten less than a week later. Coincidence? Maybe, but I became even more suspicious after his ban for cheating. This might just be because he played well in the following weeks but it was too suspicious so I thought I would share it here.
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> > > Another thing that caught my attention was after the games when I was waiting for him as he agreed to let me play white I saw a detail that I had missed earlier, when I asked him if I could play white he (in quote) " Gimme a few mins
> > > I’ll let u play white next game don’t worry " so I said ok, then the exact same minute he replied "sorry I gotta do smth" and left me. I thought he would come back or apologize but I never heard from him again. He also stayed in the top 10 after that for a long time before being banned which I feel (maybe controversial) was deserved based off my experience.
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> > > Now to conclude this post I would like to mention that this was obviously some time ago and it could be that this has absolutely nothing to do with the AWC ban on FM bijiy, I am not sure, but I thought it would be worth mentioning here. This is just my opinion but let me know your thoughts on this.
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> > Personally I find this a little weird because you can’t cheat in hyper but you can in blitz atomic
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> That’s why I figured UI would post this, because he insisted on blitz
sure, in hyper possible cheat, but is harder, than for excample, in rapid or blitz.
hmm... as for me, @natso don't cheat, normal guy...
(AS FOR ME) it's my assumption, u can mean another.
@levi_blythe said in #61:
> Man, good that I retired atomic for a while, what the hell is happening. Honestly hearing Noz admits to cheating makes me really sad. Than this guy I have never really heard of also gets banned and Taisthuban also gets banned? This is getting really weird. Next thing we ReChesster wins AWC 2025 by getting eliminated quickly and not cheating?!?! (that would be surely hella funny)
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> @ArjanZS interesting conversation and thanks for sharing, definitely suspicious that he only offered you to play with the black pieces, probably trying to farm. But what in the world is that background :D don't you get distracted? :)
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> Nevertheless, stay safe everyone, (perhaps) until some day (far far in the future) in some atomic arena (without cheats)
Where did you hear noz say that out of curiosity
I didn't know FM bijiy but I never suspected him and NOZ of cheating. If they were cheating then really anybody could be.
I watched a lot of his games and they always seemed legit. I wonder what compelled them to cheat. They were both top players and had been on lichess for a long time.
@PLZbeatme said in #10:
> Man...I really believed bijiy was a pure god of varients, His cheat betrays me
yeah I feel the same way it is really devastating to the atomic and horde community. I always admired his games and it seems that he and NOZ just started to cheat because they had been on lichess for a long time so if they had been cheating earlier then they would have been banned earlier. @natso and @Wolfram and others pls to not cheat.
@gage12 said in #63:
> > Man, good that I retired atomic for a while, what the hell is happening. Honestly hearing Noz admits to cheating makes me really sad. Than this guy I have never really heard of also gets banned and Taisthuban also gets banned? This is getting really weird. Next thing we ReChesster wins AWC 2025 by getting eliminated quickly and not cheating?!?! (that would be surely hella funny)
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> > @ArjanZS interesting conversation and thanks for sharing, definitely suspicious that he only offered you to play with the black pieces, probably trying to farm. But what in the world is that background :D don't you get distracted? :)
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> > Nevertheless, stay safe everyone, (perhaps) until some day (far far in the future) in some atomic arena (without cheats)
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> Where did you hear noz say that out of curiosity
Say what?
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