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Why chess ratings don't mean what they used to

there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical.

there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical.

People with different Cultural background behave differently , facing Players of different Countries.

Mentality plays a huge Part in Winning, loosing or drawing Games.
It depends on your Mood.

Young people tend to feel socialy Opressed. They are not allowed to own the 'Winning Mentality.'
So they try to move to a different Country in order to Steal the Mentality.

Older People learned to play well.
They are not forced to Steal the Winning Mentality anymore.

It's exhausting and disturbing to pretend to know things that you don't know.
This chess clock is a weird thing. It seems the clock splits shared consciousness.

The Old guys who studied chess own the consciousness. And the young people give it some Importance.
Cause only important things are worth stealing.

The older and Wiser one gets, the more unsure he becomes about what is important and what is not.

People with different Cultural background behave differently , facing Players of different Countries. Mentality plays a huge Part in Winning, loosing or drawing Games. It depends on your Mood. Young people tend to feel socialy Opressed. They are not allowed to own the 'Winning Mentality.' So they try to move to a different Country in order to Steal the Mentality. Older People learned to play well. They are not forced to Steal the Winning Mentality anymore. It's exhausting and disturbing to pretend to know things that you don't know. This chess clock is a weird thing. It seems the clock splits shared consciousness. The Old guys who studied chess own the consciousness. And the young people give it some Importance. Cause only important things are worth stealing. The older and Wiser one gets, the more unsure he becomes about what is important and what is not.

Ok Vlad, interesting article and work, but remember to update your bio that says "FIDE rating: 2050" as it 2027 now. jk :)

Ok Vlad, interesting article and work, but remember to update your bio that says "FIDE rating: 2050" as it 2027 now. jk :)

@EmmettA said ^

I believe this problem fixes itself over time.

On what grounds do you base this assertion? The data indicates quite the opposite.

@EmmettA said [^](/forum/redirect/post/qdFFmsxo) > I believe this problem fixes itself over time. On what grounds do you base this assertion? The data indicates quite the opposite.

@EmmettA said ^

there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical.

I disagree. There are many ways to know how many players are underrated. For example, you could use URS as an external validator, which computes ratings independently of the numbers listed on the FIDE profile of any player.

It would be quite interesting to make detailed statistics on a country-by-country basis when comparing the two datasets. If someone wants to follow up on my work, they could take the downloads from http://universalrating.com/ratings.php and run the numbers side by side.

@EmmettA said [^](/forum/redirect/post/gZsT6mUB) > there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical. I disagree. There are many ways to know how many players are underrated. For example, you could use URS as an external validator, which computes ratings independently of the numbers listed on the FIDE profile of any player. It would be quite interesting to make detailed statistics on a country-by-country basis when comparing the two datasets. If someone wants to follow up on my work, they could take the downloads from http://universalrating.com/ratings.php and run the numbers side by side.

@osuraCinnavoiG said ^

Ok Vlad, interesting article and work, but remember to update your bio that says "FIDE rating: 2050" as it 2027 now. jk :)

thanks for your comment, dear 1650 rated Lichess player. jk ;)

@osuraCinnavoiG said [^](/forum/redirect/post/nhUjpyUX) > Ok Vlad, interesting article and work, but remember to update your bio that says "FIDE rating: 2050" as it 2027 now. jk :) thanks for your comment, dear 1650 rated Lichess player. jk ;)

@Gutzh said ^

People with different Cultural background behave differently , facing Players of different Countries.

Mentality plays a huge Part in Winning, loosing or drawing Games.
It depends on your Mood.

Young people tend to feel socialy Opressed. They are not allowed to own the 'Winning Mentality.'
So they try to move to a different Country in order to Steal the Mentality.

Older People learned to play well.
They are not forced to Steal the Winning Mentality anymore.

It's exhausting and disturbing to pretend to know things that you don't know.
This chess clock is a weird thing. It seems the clock splits shared consciousness.

The Old guys who studied chess own the consciousness. And the young people give it some Importance.
Cause only important things are worth stealing.

The older and Wiser one gets, the more unsure he becomes about what is important and what is not.

I would be lying if I said I understood your point. Would you like to clarify what exactly it is you are trying to convey?

@Gutzh said [^](/forum/redirect/post/M4BSSgME) > People with different Cultural background behave differently , facing Players of different Countries. > > Mentality plays a huge Part in Winning, loosing or drawing Games. > It depends on your Mood. > > Young people tend to feel socialy Opressed. They are not allowed to own the 'Winning Mentality.' > So they try to move to a different Country in order to Steal the Mentality. > > Older People learned to play well. > They are not forced to Steal the Winning Mentality anymore. > > It's exhausting and disturbing to pretend to know things that you don't know. > This chess clock is a weird thing. It seems the clock splits shared consciousness. > > The Old guys who studied chess own the consciousness. And the young people give it some Importance. > Cause only important things are worth stealing. > > The older and Wiser one gets, the more unsure he becomes about what is important and what is not. I would be lying if I said I understood your point. Would you like to clarify what exactly it is you are trying to convey?

Maybe you should write a book about how you lost to an underrated kid and can’t stop whining about it. JK.

Over time those kids will gain rating points and won’t be underrated anymore. Where does the data show that they get more and more underrated over time, that doesn’t even make any sense.

Maybe you should write a book about how you lost to an underrated kid and can’t stop whining about it. JK. Over time those kids will gain rating points and won’t be underrated anymore. Where does the data show that they get more and more underrated over time, that doesn’t even make any sense.

@Vlad_G92 said ^

there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical.

I disagree. There are many ways to know how many players are underrated. For example, you could use URS as an external validator, which computes ratings independently of the numbers listed on the FIDE profile of any player.

It would be quite interesting to make detailed statistics on a country-by-country basis when comparing the two datasets. If someone wants to follow up on my work, they could take the downloads from http://universalrating.com/ratings.php and run the numbers side by side.

That doesn’t prove anything though it’s still just theoretical. Just because your theory is based on numbers doesn’t mean it isn’t a theory. There are many factors that the data doesn’t reflect.

@Vlad_G92 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/gTVMtK8W) > > there is no way to ever really know how many players are underrated or not, it’s only theoretical. > > I disagree. There are many ways to know how many players are underrated. For example, you could use URS as an external validator, which computes ratings independently of the numbers listed on the FIDE profile of any player. > > It would be quite interesting to make detailed statistics on a country-by-country basis when comparing the two datasets. If someone wants to follow up on my work, they could take the downloads from http://universalrating.com/ratings.php and run the numbers side by side. That doesn’t prove anything though it’s still just theoretical. Just because your theory is based on numbers doesn’t mean it isn’t a theory. There are many factors that the data doesn’t reflect.

Young people don't really understand.
They learn chess by mimicking old people.

Thats why computer chess tends to be so horrible.
It's much harder to mimick it.

People start to win games against other people, if they understand this.
And got angry about all these apes.

They develope something like a new part of the brain, in order to deal with mimicking apes.

This mentality split away from natural consciousness however inflicts other problems.
These guys sold their soul to the devil in order to win.
Where there are Masters there are Slaves.

Young people don't really understand. They learn chess by mimicking old people. Thats why computer chess tends to be so horrible. It's much harder to mimick it. People start to win games against other people, if they understand this. And got angry about all these apes. They develope something like a new part of the brain, in order to deal with mimicking apes. This mentality split away from natural consciousness however inflicts other problems. These guys sold their soul to the devil in order to win. Where there are Masters there are Slaves.