Context:
I was tryna pull some Hikaru type shi that I saw on social media, "bullying" those who refuse to surrender even when they clearly are just a monarch with no kingdom. Once he realized my plan, he chose to run out of time by not making a move for almost 20 seconds. As I refuse to be the last victim, I planned to offer a draw at 0.5 seconds remaining since I believe he won't have the reaction speed to accept that. As petty and as evil as it may seem, I want the misery to be his, at the end. (The last one with the ball loses)
Unfortunately, upon offering the draw, Lichess claimed the draw for insufficient material? I then went to the settings thinking whether what mechanic triggered and all I found was this close but still unrelated setting: (the game was not threefold)
(Link to the game:)
https://lichess.org/WLgkRo13/black#142
Anyone knows what happened here?
Context:
I was tryna pull some Hikaru type shi that I saw on social media, "bullying" those who refuse to surrender even when they clearly are just a monarch with no kingdom. Once he realized my plan, he chose to run out of time by not making a move for almost 20 seconds. As I refuse to be the last victim, I planned to offer a draw at 0.5 seconds remaining since I believe he won't have the reaction speed to accept that. As petty and as evil as it may seem, I want the misery to be his, at the end. (The last one with the ball loses)
Unfortunately, upon offering the draw, Lichess claimed the draw for insufficient material? I then went to the settings thinking whether what mechanic triggered and all I found was this close but still unrelated setting: (the game was not threefold)
(Link to the game:)
https://lichess.org/WLgkRo13/black#142
Anyone knows what happened here?
further evidence:
You cannot refuse a draw if its impossible for you to win, so it gets automatically accepted...
Tel est pris qui croyait prendre - Jean de la Fontaine
You cannot refuse a draw if its impossible for you to win, so it gets automatically accepted...
Tel est pris qui croyait prendre - Jean de la Fontaine
Fair draw. Both players were unable to deliver a checkmate. For different reasons.
Fair draw. Both players were unable to deliver a checkmate. For different reasons.
@CG314 said ^
You cannot refuse a draw if its impossible for you to win, so it gets automatically accepted...
Is this in the FIDE handbook or something? I've never heard of such a rule...
@CG314 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/F0XW7xWw)
> You cannot refuse a draw if its impossible for you to win, so it gets automatically accepted...
Is this in the FIDE handbook or something? I've never heard of such a rule...
No, not FIDE, this is a Lichess implementation. According to the laws, you can refuse a draw offer (tho depending on the circumstances, I could imagine 11.1 being invoked).
No, not FIDE, this is a Lichess implementation. According to the laws, you can refuse a draw offer (tho depending on the circumstances, I could imagine 11.1 being invoked).
It's just a technicality of the FIDE rules that you have to resign if you want to force a draw in a(non-dead) position where it's impossible for you to get checkmated.
If there exists a way to force an immediate draw, the draw button should do it, even if the action is technically neither a draw offer nor a draw claim.
It's just a technicality of the FIDE rules that you have to resign if you want to force a draw in a(non-dead) position where it's impossible for you to get checkmated.
If there exists a way to force an immediate draw, the draw button should do it, even if the action is technically neither a draw offer nor a draw claim.
Trolling has a price.
@CG314 said ^
No, not FIDE, this is a Lichess implementation. According to the laws, you can refuse a draw offer (tho depending on the circumstances, I could imagine 11.1 being invoked).
11.1, you mean this?
@PurpleInferno said ^
It's just a technicality of the FIDE rules that you have to resign if you want to force a draw in a(non-dead) position where it's impossible for you to get checkmated.
So if I was KQ vs K, and I resigned, its a draw?
...even if the action is technically neither a draw offer nor a draw claim.
Then what is it?
@IamNOTamod said ^
Trolling has a price.
I guess I'm the poor guy who doesn't buy the idea.
@CG314 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/P2Kqn3Ne)
> No, not FIDE, this is a Lichess implementation. According to the laws, you can refuse a draw offer (tho depending on the circumstances, I could imagine 11.1 being invoked).
11.1, you mean this?
@PurpleInferno said [^](/forum/redirect/post/HKZaK12T)
> It's just a technicality of the FIDE rules that you have to resign if you want to force a draw in a(non-dead) position where it's impossible for you to get checkmated.
So if I was KQ vs K, and I resigned, its a draw?
> ...even if the action is technically neither a draw offer nor a draw claim.
Then what is it?
@IamNOTamod said [^](/forum/redirect/post/XuBvBA1L)
> Trolling has a price.
I guess I'm the poor guy who doesn't buy the idea.
"So if I was KQ vs K, and I resigned, its a draw?"
- Yes.
5.1.2 The game is lost by the player who declares he/she resigns (this immediately ends the game), unless the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player’s king by any possible series of legal moves. In this case the result of the game is a draw.
"So if I was KQ vs K, and I resigned, its a draw?"
* Yes.
5.1.2 The game is lost by the player who declares he/she resigns (this immediately ends the game), unless the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player’s king by any possible series of legal moves. In this case the result of the game is a draw.
