Mulit-Engine Consensus • page 1/1 • Game Analysis • lichess.org

It's a draw. The material is even, but not the cp values or the 43 engines I ran on my i5-6500T.

https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8/p7/7p/4knp1/4N3/3K1PP1/1P6/8_b_-_-_16_58

I discovered these other links yesterday ...

https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/CCIRatings2.html
https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/

https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci
https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci/releases/tag/2026.09
https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci/blob/main/lists/CCIRatings.csv

The following is my project on multi-engines:

Move time was set at 15 seconds per engine move.
timeout_seconds = 20 is use to accommodate the search time plus any unexpected overhead.

--- Engine Status ---
Engine         Status  Move   Eval   Depth  Nodes       Time    PV
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
andscacs       ok      Ne7    +0.40  26     18,860,273  15.36s  Ne7 Nc5 h5 Ne4 h4 f4+
amoeba         ok      Ne7    +0.50  27     25,572,352  14.36s  Ne7
asmFish        ok      Ne7    +0.08  32     38,641,056  15.09s  Ne7 Ke3
asymptote      ok      Nxg3   +0.19  23     23,888,314  16.12s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Ne2+ Kxf3 Nd4+
beef           ok      Ne7    +0.18  29     29,961,360  14.88s  Ne7 b3 Nd5 Kc4 Nc7 b4
booot          ok      Nxg3   +0.59  34     10,200,245  16.03s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2
cinnamon       ok      Ne7    +0.00  14     6,636,579   15.38s  Ne7 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3 Ne7 Ke3
cheng          ok      Ke6    +0.12  19     14,508,087  15.06s  Ke6 g4 Nh4 Ke2 Kd5 Kf2
counter        ok      Ng7    +0.13  23     16,280,576  15.09s  Ng7 Ke3 Ne6 Kd3 h5 Nxg5
daydreamer     ok      a5     +0.19  20     4,374,176   8.14s   a5 b3 Kd5 Nc3+ Kc5 Ne2
ethereal       ok      Ne7    +0.31  26     10,079,243  15.02s  Ne7 Ke2 Nd5 Nd2 Nb6 Ke3
fractal        ok      a5     +0.18  12     10,142,372  15.27s  a5 Kc4 Ne3+ Kd3 Nf5 Kc4
fruit          ok      Ne7    +0.12  18     30,310,000  15.11s  Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nf6 Nxf6
gambitfruit    ok      Ne7    +0.08  17     11,660,000  15.06s  Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nb6 b4
glaurung       ok      a5     +0.17  16     1,261,769   17.66s  a5 g4 Nh4 Ke3 Ng2+ Kf2
godel          ok      Ne7    +0.10  24     17,317,509  15.53s  Ne7
greko          ok      Nxg3   +0.33  18     3,129,854   22.85s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2
halogen        ok      Ng7    +0.18  28     10,648,748  14.96s  Ng7 Ke2 Kd5 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3
igel           ok      a5     +0.21  24     6,040,552   15.33s  a5 b3 Kd5 Nf6+ Kc5 g4
irina          ok      a5     +0.07  14     10,079,499  15.19s  a5
koivisto       ok      Ng7    +0.78  27     10,066,423  15.17s  Ng7 Nf2 Kd5 Ne4 Nh5 Nc3+
komodo         ok      Ne7    +0.16  27     12,038,730  16.22s  Ne7 Nd2
laser          ok      a5     +0.03  26     6,988,800   15.30s  a5 b3 Ne7 Ke3 h5 g4
lc0            ok      a5     +0.11   5     673         16.92s  a5 b3 Ne7 Nd2 Nc6 Nc4+
marvin         ok      Ne7    +0.24  22     20,481,215  15.08s  Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nb6 b4
minic          ok      Nxg3   +0.30  26     2,364,433   21.26s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2
monolith       ok      Ng7    +0.25  26     9,195,008   15.30s  Ng7 Ke3 Ne6 g4 Nf4 Nc5
patricia       ok      Ng7    +0.56  25     7,361,153   15.09s  Ng7
pawny          ok      Nxg3   +0.71  24     26,266,240  14.99s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2
pedone         ok      Ne7    +0.25  24     2,496,332   5.05s   Ne7 Kc4 Nd5 Kc5 Nf4 Kc4
pulse          ok      Ke6    +0.01  10     9,100,374   15.04s  Ke6 b3 Nd6 Nxd6 Kxd6 b4
quokka         ok      Ne7    +0.30   9     3,037,673   14.97s  Ne7 Kc4 g4 Nd2 Nf5 fxg4
rodentii       ok      a5     +0.19  25     24,000,000  15.12s  a5 g4 Nh4 Ke3 Ng2+ Kf2
rubiChess      ok      Ke6    +0.17  24     6,197,746   16.08s  Ke6 Kc4 Ke5 Kd3 Ne7 Nf2
ShashChess     ok      Nxg3   +0.23  35     4,732,478   16.66s  Nxg3
simplex        ok      a5     +0.00  19     19,461,109  26.27s  a5 b3 Nd6 Nxd6 Kxd6 Ke4
sirius         ok      Ne7    +0.87  26     6,796,728   15.86s  Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Ke2 a5 g4
stash          ok      a5     +0.21  32     35,490,504  15.27s  a5 b3
stockfish      ok      Nxg3   +0.34  43     9,209,371   16.00s  Nxg3 Nxg3
supernova      ok      Ng7    +0.09  26     12,067,613  16.17s  Ng7 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3 Ng7 Ke3
teki           ok      Nxg3   +1.20  18     18,034,797  14.97s  Nxg3
texel          ok      Nxg3   +0.17  21     18,845,190  15.04s  Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Ne4 Kxf3 Nd2+
viridithas     ok      Ne7    +0.20  31     6,616,064   15.08s  Ne7 Nd2 Nc6 Ne4 Nd8 Nc3

--- Engine Consensus ---
Move   Votes  Share %  Median Eval (mover)
------------------------------------------
Ne7    15     34.9%    +0.20
a5     10     23.3%    +0.17
Nxg3   9      20.9%    +0.33
Ng7    6      14.0%    +0.21
Ke6    3      7.0%     +0.12

It's a draw. The material is even, but not the cp values or the 43 engines I ran on my i5-6500T. https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8/p7/7p/4knp1/4N3/3K1PP1/1P6/8_b_-_-_16_58 I discovered these other links yesterday ... https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/CCIRatings2.html https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/ https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci/releases/tag/2026.09 https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci/blob/main/lists/CCIRatings.csv The following is my project on multi-engines: Move time was set at 15 seconds per engine move. timeout_seconds = 20 is use to accommodate the search time plus any unexpected overhead. ![Screenshot_20260926_081312.png](https://image.lichess1.org/display?fmt=png&h=0&op=resize&path=CSonHQ35HMI1.png&w=864&sig=55f08f23654fad78ba5c17de47126bd997d6a82f) ``` --- Engine Status --- Engine Status Move Eval Depth Nodes Time PV ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- andscacs ok Ne7 +0.40 26 18,860,273 15.36s Ne7 Nc5 h5 Ne4 h4 f4+ amoeba ok Ne7 +0.50 27 25,572,352 14.36s Ne7 asmFish ok Ne7 +0.08 32 38,641,056 15.09s Ne7 Ke3 asymptote ok Nxg3 +0.19 23 23,888,314 16.12s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Ne2+ Kxf3 Nd4+ beef ok Ne7 +0.18 29 29,961,360 14.88s Ne7 b3 Nd5 Kc4 Nc7 b4 booot ok Nxg3 +0.59 34 10,200,245 16.03s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2 cinnamon ok Ne7 +0.00 14 6,636,579 15.38s Ne7 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3 Ne7 Ke3 cheng ok Ke6 +0.12 19 14,508,087 15.06s Ke6 g4 Nh4 Ke2 Kd5 Kf2 counter ok Ng7 +0.13 23 16,280,576 15.09s Ng7 Ke3 Ne6 Kd3 h5 Nxg5 daydreamer ok a5 +0.19 20 4,374,176 8.14s a5 b3 Kd5 Nc3+ Kc5 Ne2 ethereal ok Ne7 +0.31 26 10,079,243 15.02s Ne7 Ke2 Nd5 Nd2 Nb6 Ke3 fractal ok a5 +0.18 12 10,142,372 15.27s a5 Kc4 Ne3+ Kd3 Nf5 Kc4 fruit ok Ne7 +0.12 18 30,310,000 15.11s Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nf6 Nxf6 gambitfruit ok Ne7 +0.08 17 11,660,000 15.06s Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nb6 b4 glaurung ok a5 +0.17 16 1,261,769 17.66s a5 g4 Nh4 Ke3 Ng2+ Kf2 godel ok Ne7 +0.10 24 17,317,509 15.53s Ne7 greko ok Nxg3 +0.33 18 3,129,854 22.85s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2 halogen ok Ng7 +0.18 28 10,648,748 14.96s Ng7 Ke2 Kd5 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3 igel ok a5 +0.21 24 6,040,552 15.33s a5 b3 Kd5 Nf6+ Kc5 g4 irina ok a5 +0.07 14 10,079,499 15.19s a5 koivisto ok Ng7 +0.78 27 10,066,423 15.17s Ng7 Nf2 Kd5 Ne4 Nh5 Nc3+ komodo ok Ne7 +0.16 27 12,038,730 16.22s Ne7 Nd2 laser ok a5 +0.03 26 6,988,800 15.30s a5 b3 Ne7 Ke3 h5 g4 lc0 ok a5 +0.11 5 673 16.92s a5 b3 Ne7 Nd2 Nc6 Nc4+ marvin ok Ne7 +0.24 22 20,481,215 15.08s Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Kd3 Nb6 b4 minic ok Nxg3 +0.30 26 2,364,433 21.26s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2 monolith ok Ng7 +0.25 26 9,195,008 15.30s Ng7 Ke3 Ne6 g4 Nf4 Nc5 patricia ok Ng7 +0.56 25 7,361,153 15.09s Ng7 pawny ok Nxg3 +0.71 24 26,266,240 14.99s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Nh5+ Kxf3 Kd2 pedone ok Ne7 +0.25 24 2,496,332 5.05s Ne7 Kc4 Nd5 Kc5 Nf4 Kc4 pulse ok Ke6 +0.01 10 9,100,374 15.04s Ke6 b3 Nd6 Nxd6 Kxd6 b4 quokka ok Ne7 +0.30 9 3,037,673 14.97s Ne7 Kc4 g4 Nd2 Nf5 fxg4 rodentii ok a5 +0.19 25 24,000,000 15.12s a5 g4 Nh4 Ke3 Ng2+ Kf2 rubiChess ok Ke6 +0.17 24 6,197,746 16.08s Ke6 Kc4 Ke5 Kd3 Ne7 Nf2 ShashChess ok Nxg3 +0.23 35 4,732,478 16.66s Nxg3 simplex ok a5 +0.00 19 19,461,109 26.27s a5 b3 Nd6 Nxd6 Kxd6 Ke4 sirius ok Ne7 +0.87 26 6,796,728 15.86s Ne7 Ke3 Nd5+ Ke2 a5 g4 stash ok a5 +0.21 32 35,490,504 15.27s a5 b3 stockfish ok Nxg3 +0.34 43 9,209,371 16.00s Nxg3 Nxg3 supernova ok Ng7 +0.09 26 12,067,613 16.17s Ng7 Ke3 Nf5+ Kd3 Ng7 Ke3 teki ok Nxg3 +1.20 18 18,034,797 14.97s Nxg3 texel ok Nxg3 +0.17 21 18,845,190 15.04s Nxg3 Nxg3 Kf4 Ne4 Kxf3 Nd2+ viridithas ok Ne7 +0.20 31 6,616,064 15.08s Ne7 Nd2 Nc6 Ne4 Nd8 Nc3 --- Engine Consensus --- Move Votes Share % Median Eval (mover) ------------------------------------------ Ne7 15 34.9% +0.20 a5 10 23.3% +0.17 Nxg3 9 20.9% +0.33 Ng7 6 14.0% +0.21 Ke6 3 7.0% +0.12

Toscani

There is a typo in the subject title. It's too late for me to edit the subject title, but maybe mods or staff can.

Subject: Multi - Engine, Best move consensus

There is a typo in the subject title. It's too late for me to edit the subject title, but maybe mods or staff can. Subject: Multi - Engine, Best move consensus

GatoChess89

@Toscani said ^

It's a draw. The material is even, but not the cp values or the 43 engines I ran on my i5-6500T.

https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8/p7/7p/4knp1/4N3/3K1PP1/1P6/8_b_-_-_16_58

I discovered these other links yesterday ...

https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/CCIRatings2.html
https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/

https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci
https://github.com/comput...

Hi, your project is really cool! I'd love to collaborate with you. I'm also a programmer and I have many projects.

@Toscani said [^](/forum/redirect/post/eqpmSQ93) > It's a draw. The material is even, but not the cp values or the 43 engines I ran on my i5-6500T. > > https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8/p7/7p/4knp1/4N3/3K1PP1/1P6/8_b_-_-_16_58 > > I discovered these other links yesterday ... > > https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/CCIRatings2.html > https://computer-chess-index.github.io/cci/ > > https://github.com/computer-chess-index/cci > https://github.com/comput... Hi, your project is really cool! I'd love to collaborate with you. I'm also a programmer and I have many projects.

Toscani

Comparing raw centipawn (cp) evaluations across a pool of chess engines is like comparing apples and oranges.
So the Median Eval is just adding noise.

The popularity of a move does not make a move best. The moves we see are the best from the rest. But when it comes time to sort the PV moves, the bestmove would need something like a rating. So using the ratings of the engines that picked that move might point to the better PV1. But since ratings are not constant, maybe a ratio from the nodes and depth would weight the candidate moves even better.

Comparing raw centipawn (cp) evaluations across a pool of chess engines is like comparing apples and oranges. So the Median Eval is just adding noise. The popularity of a move does not make a move best. The moves we see are the best from the rest. But when it comes time to sort the PV moves, the bestmove would need something like a rating. So using the ratings of the engines that picked that move might point to the better PV1. But since ratings are not constant, maybe a ratio from the nodes and depth would weight the candidate moves even better.

aVague

not hard position, maybe it's better to find complex position with much more time given to think and compare

Toscani

edited

With this fen and 30 seconds per move, I discovered engines that could not see the mate in 7.
So thanks, I'll be removing some engines from my list and replacing them with others that can see the horizon.

[Variant "From Position"]
[FEN "5rk1/1p6/6p1/1Q3p2/8/4P2R/3PKPP1/8 b - - 0 1"]

1... Kg7 2. Qxb7+ Rf7 3. Qb2+ Rf6 4. f4 g5 5. fxg5 Kf8 6. Qxf6+ Ke8 7. Rh7 f4 8. Qh8#

Since all engines gave their bestmove (PV1) and not all have the same PV1 ... I'm still stuck on discovering how to sort those PV1 candidates. The auto play will pick the PV1 from the Engine Consensus List. But which one is truly the PV1 to play out. I can always play them all out and discover the tree, but that's a forced approach.

With this fen and 30 seconds per move, I discovered engines that could not see the mate in 7. So thanks, I'll be removing some engines from my list and replacing them with others that can see the horizon. [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "5rk1/1p6/6p1/1Q3p2/8/4P2R/3PKPP1/8 b - - 0 1"] 1... Kg7 2. Qxb7+ Rf7 3. Qb2+ Rf6 4. f4 g5 5. fxg5 Kf8 6. Qxf6+ Ke8 7. Rh7 f4 8. Qh8# Since all engines gave their bestmove (PV1) and not all have the same PV1 ... I'm still stuck on discovering how to sort those PV1 candidates. The auto play will pick the PV1 from the Engine Consensus List. But which one is truly the PV1 to play out. I can always play them all out and discover the tree, but that's a forced approach.

Toscani

edited

Engines should not be able to analyse this position:

[Variant "From Position"]
[FEN "5rk1/1p6/6p1/1q2Qp2/8/4P2R/3PKPP1/8 b - - 0 1"]

This helped remove other engines from my list.

In standard chess logic, if it is Black's turn, White's king cannot currently be left in check unless White just made an illegal move, or more importantly, the side not to move is currently in check.

Engines should not be able to analyse this position: [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "5rk1/1p6/6p1/1q2Qp2/8/4P2R/3PKPP1/8 b - - 0 1"] This helped remove other engines from my list. In standard chess logic, if it is Black's turn, White's king cannot currently be left in check unless White just made an illegal move, or more importantly, the side not to move is currently in check.