Sometime I hate chess logic, because

Only chance of real advantage I here is that I need to hurry and go for queen g7 straight away, without rook support later , which I ve tried to realize, if it was really matable situation, then it would be really beauty, but it's actually a draw in the end, and all beauty is ruined, why such problems are appearing?that pure beauty logic doesn't works that way

https://lichess.org/NKRvviWb/white#50

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@aVague said ^

Only chance of real advantage I here is that I need to hurry and go for queen g7 straight away, without rook support later , which I ve tried to realize, if it was really matable situation, then it would be really beauty, but it's actually a draw in the end, and all beauty is ruined, why such problems are appearing?that pure beauty logic doesn't works that way ...

[Event "rated blitz game"] [Site "https://lichess.org/NKRvviWb"] [Date "2026.10.20"] [Black "edish"] [Result "1-0"] [Variant "Standard"] [TimeControl "180+2"] [Annotator "lichess.org"] 26 Re2?? (2.01 --> -0.08) Blunder. Qf6 was best.

As usual, I am not sure what you are saying. When I try it, the machine's idea (26 Qf6 Rg8 27 Qxf7+ Kh8 28 Qf6+ Kh7 29 Nxc5 Rxb2 30 Qf7+ Kh8 31 Nd7 Qc7) does not seem to be "actually a draw in the end", although, apparently, victory can take a surprisingly long time: 32 Rf1 Bh3 33 Rfe1 Bf5 34 a3 a5 35 a4 Ra2 36 Qf6+ Kh7 37 Nf8+ Rxf8 38 Qxf8 Rb2 39 R1e3 Rd2 40 Qf6 Rc2 41 Kh1 Rb2 42 c4 Rb7 43 Re1 Ra7 44 cxd5 Qd6 45 Rxf5 Qg3 46 Rxe6 Qh3+ 47 Kg1 Qxf5 48 Qxf5 gxf5 49 d6 Ra6 50 Kf2 f4 51 Ke1 Rb6 52 Kd2 Rb8 53 Kd3 Rb3+ 54 Ke4 Rb8 55 d5 Rb4+ 56 Ke5 Rb8 57 d7 Rd8 58 d6 Rxd7 59 Re7+ etc.

@aVague said [^](/forum/redirect/post/qtH5udXv) > Only chance of real advantage I here is that I need to hurry and go for queen g7 straight away, without rook support later , which I ve tried to realize, if it was really matable situation, then it would be really beauty, but it's actually a draw in the end, and all beauty is ruined, why such problems are appearing?that pure beauty logic doesn't works that way ... [Event "rated blitz game"] [Site "https://lichess.org/NKRvviWb"] [Date "2026.10.20"] [Black "edish"] [Result "1-0"] [Variant "Standard"] [TimeControl "180+2"] [Annotator "lichess.org"] 26 Re2?? (2.01 --> -0.08) Blunder. Qf6 was best. As usual, I am not sure what you are saying. When I try it, the machine's idea (26 Qf6 Rg8 27 Qxf7+ Kh8 28 Qf6+ Kh7 29 Nxc5 Rxb2 30 Qf7+ Kh8 31 Nd7 Qc7) does not seem to be "actually a draw in the end", although, apparently, victory can take a surprisingly long time: 32 Rf1 Bh3 33 Rfe1 Bf5 34 a3 a5 35 a4 Ra2 36 Qf6+ Kh7 37 Nf8+ Rxf8 38 Qxf8 Rb2 39 R1e3 Rd2 40 Qf6 Rc2 41 Kh1 Rb2 42 c4 Rb7 43 Re1 Ra7 44 cxd5 Qd6 45 Rxf5 Qg3 46 Rxe6 Qh3+ 47 Kg1 Qxf5 48 Qxf5 gxf5 49 d6 Ra6 50 Kf2 f4 51 Ke1 Rb6 52 Kd2 Rb8 53 Kd3 Rb3+ 54 Ke4 Rb8 55 d5 Rb4+ 56 Ke5 Rb8 57 d7 Rd8 58 d6 Rxd7 59 Re7+ etc.

aVague

@kindaspongey said ^

Only chance of real advantage I here is that I need to hurry and go for queen g7 straight away, without rook support later , which I ve tried to realize, if it was really matable situation, then it would be really beauty, but it's actually a draw in the end, and all beauty is ruined, why such problems are appearing?that pure beauty logic doesn't ...

lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem?

@kindaspongey said [^](/forum/redirect/post/6vBe5QA0) > > Only chance of real advantage I here is that I need to hurry and go for queen g7 straight away, without rook support later , which I ve tried to realize, if it was really matable situation, then it would be really beauty, but it's actually a draw in the end, and all beauty is ruined, why such problems are appearing?that pure beauty logic doesn't ... lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem?

kindaspongey

@aVague said in #3:

... lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem?

Well, I think that part of the problem was your exposed king on g1. In that line, it would have been necessary to be wary of problems arising from a checking move by edish.

@aVague said in #3: > ... lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem? Well, I think that part of the problem was your exposed king on g1. In that line, it would have been necessary to be wary of problems arising from a checking move by edish.

aVague

@kindaspongey said ^

... lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem?

Well, I think that part of the problem was your exposed king on g1. In that line, it would have been necessary to be wary of problems arising from a checking move by edish.

I seem to create more problem to his king, than his to mine, that should overweight in the end for Me, maybe something else?

@kindaspongey said [^](/forum/redirect/post/0TCMuJMV) > > ... lol yes I ve checked that SF line, and wonder, why such a long way needed, what 's the main problem? > > Well, I think that part of the problem was your exposed king on g1. In that line, it would have been necessary to be wary of problems arising from a checking move by edish. I seem to create more problem to his king, than his to mine, that should overweight in the end for Me, maybe something else?

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@aVague said in #5:

... I seem to create more problem to his king, than his to mine, that should overweight in the end for Me, maybe something else?

In that line, YOU would have had the advantage, and it would have made sense for edish to try to exploit your king position in an attempt to prolong the game. There would have been no reason for you to seek to prolong the game.

@aVague said in #5: > ... I seem to create more problem to his king, than his to mine, that should overweight in the end for Me, maybe something else? In that line, YOU would have had the advantage, and it would have made sense for edish to try to exploit your king position in an attempt to prolong the game. There would have been no reason for you to seek to prolong the game.

aVague

@kindaspongey said ^

In that line, YOU would have had the advantage, and it would have made more sense for edish to try to exploit your king position in an attempt to prolong the game. There would have been no reason for you to seek to prolong the game.

Yes, but how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared?

@kindaspongey said [^](/forum/redirect/post/JVrGxFbh) > In that line, YOU would have had the advantage, and it would have made more sense for edish to try to exploit your king position in an attempt to prolong the game. There would have been no reason for you to seek to prolong the game. Yes, but how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared?

kindaspongey

@aVague said in #7:

... how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared?

Well, consider these machine opinions:
16 g4?! (1.37 --> 0.56) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best.
17 f3?! (0.82 --> 0.22) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best.
18 h4 (~0.4 --> ~0) (Guess what. Apparently, Nc5 would have been better.)

@aVague said in #7: > ... how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared? Well, consider these machine opinions: 16 g4?! (1.37 --> 0.56) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best. 17 f3?! (0.82 --> 0.22) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best. 18 h4 (~0.4 --> ~0) (Guess what. Apparently, Nc5 would have been better.)

aVague

@kindaspongey said ^

... how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared?

Well, consider these machine opinions:
16 g4?! (1.37 --> 0.56) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best.
17 f3?! (0.82 --> 0.22) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best.
18 h4 (~0.4 --> ~0) (Guess what. Apparently, Nc5 would have been better.)

h4 isnt inacc. and these king pawn didn't opened my king to queen , he was opened due d pawn exchange and e rook removing

@kindaspongey said [^](/forum/redirect/post/uXoLhbNf) > > ... how could I prevent that king exposure and hide him before problem appeared? > > Well, consider these machine opinions: > 16 g4?! (1.37 --> 0.56) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best. > 17 f3?! (0.82 --> 0.22) Inaccuracy. Nc5 was best. > 18 h4 (~0.4 --> ~0) (Guess what. Apparently, Nc5 would have been better.) h4 isnt inacc. and these king pawn didn't opened my king to queen , he was opened due d pawn exchange and e rook removing

kindaspongey

@aVague said in #9:

... h4 isnt inacc.

The machine apparently thought that 18 h4 changed the position from ~0.4 (in your favor) to ~0.

@aVague said in #9:

and these king pawn didn't opened my king to queen , he was opened due d pawn exchange and e rook removing

"... sensible players keep their king well defended behind a wall of pawns. ..." - Learn Chess (2010) by GM John Nunn
I suppose that I should add that he also wrote that "there are always exceptions" to general principles, but the machine did not seem to approve of 16 g4, 17 f3, or 18 h4.

@aVague said in #9: > ... h4 isnt inacc. The machine apparently thought that 18 h4 changed the position from ~0.4 (in your favor) to ~0. @aVague said in #9: > and these king pawn didn't opened my king to queen , he was opened due d pawn exchange and e rook removing "... sensible players keep their king well defended behind a wall of pawns. ..." - Learn Chess (2010) by GM John Nunn I suppose that I should add that he also wrote that "there are always exceptions" to general principles, but the machine did not seem to approve of 16 g4, 17 f3, or 18 h4.