https://lichess.org/tcMnt73P
@RemRus said in #8:
... you take one piece and make 10 moves until you lose it. So wrong. You need to develop all the figures at the same time. ...
@kindaspongey said in #9:
... I suspect that that is a reference to moves 26-33. ...
@RemRus said in #10:
... No. First, queen is moved from 13 to 23.
Moves 13-20 WERE queen moves, but 21-23 were bishop moves. It does not seem appropriate to me to say that the queen was lost. In view of 22...Bxe5, it seems to me that "queen exchange" would be a better description of what happened.
@RemRus said in #10:
Then rook from 26 to 33.
Of those 8 rook moves, I would say that the first 3 were effectively considered reasonable by the machine.
@RemRus said in #10:
The player lost 20 moves.
That seems to me to be a departure from your #8 sentence that seemed (to me) to indicate 10 rook moves culminating in the loss of the rook.
13-23 and 26-33 are NINETEEN moves, and the machine seems to think that 14...Qxf2+, 15...Qf4+, 16...Qf5+, 20...Qd1+, 21...Bd6, 22...Bxe5, 23...Bxh2, 26...Rxd6, 27...Rg6, and 28...Rg4 were reasonable.
After 13 Qxe4, imanoob424 had an over-4-point advantage, and I suppose that one could say that, collectively, moves 13-33 washed away much of that advantage, but, even after 33...Ra1, an approximately-2-point advantage remained.
@kindaspongey said in #9:
... It might be beneficial for imanoob424 to do some reading in a book like the Batsford edition of Logical Chess by Chernev. ...
@RemRus said in #10:
Books are of little help.
"... converted into algebraic notation ... Batsford's new edition of Logical Chess: Move by Move ... by Irving Chernev ... is a collection of 33 games ... definitely for beginners and players who are just starting to learn about development, weak squares, the centre, standard attacking ideas, and the like. In many ways, it would [be] a wonderful 'first' book (or first 'serious' book, after the ones which teach the rules and elementary mates, for example), and a nice gift for a young player just taking up chess. ..." - IM John Watson (1999)
https://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/assorted-recent-books
https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Chess-Every-Explained-Algebraic/dp/0713484640?asin=0713484640&revisi&format=4&depth=1
@RemRus said in #10:
He must go to the puzzle and look for the theme of the hanging pieces.
I am not sure what you mean by "the puzzle" or whether or not it has a "hanging piece" category. In any event, perhaps it would not be so good to have an advance warning that one is about to look at a hanging-piece-puzzle.
@RemRus said in #10:
Solve a thousand puzzles.
Many many beginner books indicate that one can reasonably consider multiple subjects without first solving a thousand puzzles.
By the way, what time is it where you are? Russia has a lot of time zones.
@RemRus said in #7:
... [In the [Site "https://lichess.org/TIr3rjIB"] game against Rawgul, after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 Nxd4 4 Nxe5 g5, you moved 5 c3.] For what? To what? Answer yourself specifically, why did you move the pawn? To do what? ...
It seems pretty obvious what happened there. After thinking for only ~6 seconds, imanoob424 failed to notice the possibility of 5 Qxd4 and played 5 c3 in order to chase the knight away from d4.
https://lichess.org/tcMnt73P
@RemRus said in #8:
> ... you take one piece and make 10 moves until you lose it. So wrong. You need to develop all the figures at the same time. ...
@kindaspongey said in #9:
> ... I suspect that that is a reference to moves 26-33. ...
@RemRus said in #10:
> ... No. First, queen is moved from 13 to 23.
Moves 13-20 WERE queen moves, but 21-23 were bishop moves. It does not seem appropriate to me to say that the queen was lost. In view of 22...Bxe5, it seems to me that "queen exchange" would be a better description of what happened.
@RemRus said in #10:
> Then rook from 26 to 33.
Of those 8 rook moves, I would say that the first 3 were effectively considered reasonable by the machine.
@RemRus said in #10:
> The player lost 20 moves.
That seems to me to be a departure from your #8 sentence that seemed (to me) to indicate 10 rook moves culminating in the loss of the rook.
13-23 and 26-33 are NINETEEN moves, and the machine seems to think that 14...Qxf2+, 15...Qf4+, 16...Qf5+, 20...Qd1+, 21...Bd6, 22...Bxe5, 23...Bxh2, 26...Rxd6, 27...Rg6, and 28...Rg4 were reasonable.
After 13 Qxe4, imanoob424 had an over-4-point advantage, and I suppose that one could say that, collectively, moves 13-33 washed away much of that advantage, but, even after 33...Ra1, an approximately-2-point advantage remained.
@kindaspongey said in #9:
> ... It might be beneficial for imanoob424 to do some reading in a book like the Batsford edition of Logical Chess by Chernev. ...
@RemRus said in #10:
> Books are of little help.
"... converted into algebraic notation ... Batsford's new edition of Logical Chess: Move by Move ... by Irving Chernev ... is a collection of 33 games ... definitely for beginners and players who are just starting to learn about development, weak squares, the centre, standard attacking ideas, and the like. In many ways, it would [be] a wonderful 'first' book (or first 'serious' book, after the ones which teach the rules and elementary mates, for example), and a nice gift for a young player just taking up chess. ..." - IM John Watson (1999)
https://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/assorted-recent-books
https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Chess-Every-Explained-Algebraic/dp/0713484640?asin=0713484640&revisi&format=4&depth=1
@RemRus said in #10:
> He must go to the puzzle and look for the theme of the hanging pieces.
I am not sure what you mean by "the puzzle" or whether or not it has a "hanging piece" category. In any event, perhaps it would not be so good to have an advance warning that one is about to look at a hanging-piece-puzzle.
@RemRus said in #10:
> Solve a thousand puzzles.
Many many beginner books indicate that one can reasonably consider multiple subjects without first solving a thousand puzzles.
By the way, what time is it where you are? Russia has a lot of time zones.
@RemRus said in #7:
> ... [In the [Site "https://lichess.org/TIr3rjIB"] game against Rawgul, after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 Nxd4 4 Nxe5 g5, you moved 5 c3.] For what? To what? Answer yourself specifically, why did you move the pawn? To do what? ...
It seems pretty obvious what happened there. After thinking for only ~6 seconds, imanoob424 failed to notice the possibility of 5 Qxd4 and played 5 c3 in order to chase the knight away from d4.