In real life play, would this be considered a stalemate due to insufficient material?

In this position, no matter what any player do, it's impossible for either to win.

I forced this position because I was behind 1 pawn, but we were very low on time and I had to make erratic moves to force a triple repetition or a 50 moves stalemate. But I was wondering, had time ran out, of course the program would have made that player lose, but if this position happened in physical play, would the stalemate be forced by the rules since it's simply impossible for any player to win or lose?

Regarding your question: do you refer to OTB tournament play under FIDE rules?

I’m not familiar with this, maybe @mrpushwood can help?

With the new Lichess update notes, I’d assume this should be drawn immediately, if it wasn’t already before. Why not post game link btw?

@Rookitiki said ^

Regarding your question: do you refer to OTB tournament play under FIDE rules?

I’m not familiar with this, maybe @mrpushwood can help?

With the new Lichess update notes, I’d assume this should be drawn immediately, if it wasn’t already before. Why not post game link btw?

I suppose I mean that. I'm an absolute casual who plays bullet with 0 preparation or prior knowledge simply to kill time.

This is the link of the game:

It was just curiosity, as I wonder if an engine would even be able to find out wether or not a position is unwinnable and unloseable for both players in every possible situation where that could happen.

Oh thanks for the share. So I assumed incorrectly, wonder what the patch log meant then.

https://lichess.org/changelog

Draws are now forced when there is insufficient material to deliver checkmate (#821 by johndoknjas for online, #3565 by Mohamadmourad for the over the board mode of the app)

Guess “insufficient” and “sufficiently blocked” are two different concepts :)

OTB I believe a player can call an arbiter to declare the game a draw
At least in my country this is true (UK)

IRL it's not called stalemate or insufficient material, it's a dead position.

And online ...

In the event of one player running out of time, that player will usually lose the game. However, the game is drawn if the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player's king by any possible series of legal moves (FIDE handbook §6.9).

In rare cases this can be difficult to decide automatically (forced lines, fortresses). By default we always side with the player who did not run out of time.

@Chessguy1969 said ^

OTB I believe a player can call an arbiter to declare the game a draw
At least in my country this is true (UK)

This is my experience as well from OTB tournaments. Online you just try to move and hope for threefold repetition (like in the game above), then lose if you're unlucky. What's interesting above the above position is that there are absolutely no lines to checkmate (compared to those where the mate would require stupid moves) but I have no idea if the evaluation detects that on Lichess.

Yes, this is a draw.
5.2.2 The game is drawn when a position has arisen in which neither player can checkmate the opponent’s king with any series of legal moves. The game is said to end in a ‘dead position’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the position was in accordance with Article 3 and Articles 4.2 – 4.7.

The dead become the undead online