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Lichess Classical to FIDE

Hello,

I'm curious if there's any conversions I can find from Lichess Classical to FIDE. About how much will 2200 classical translate to? I've found ChessGoals, but 2200 becomes 1925 USCF and 2000 FIDE which makes no sense for me?

Appreciates your responses.

Hello, I'm curious if there's any conversions I can find from Lichess Classical to FIDE. About how much will 2200 classical translate to? I've found ChessGoals, but 2200 becomes 1925 USCF and 2000 FIDE which makes no sense for me? Appreciates your responses.

i wont care much just improve,but it all dpends on the playing volume on both pools,ther really isnt a consisten value

i wont care much just improve,but it all dpends on the playing volume on both pools,ther really isnt a consisten value

I just want an approximate range of two values

I just want an approximate range of two values

there are several attempts to map and your guess is on right ball bark. But the thing is that at best such an conversion has accuracy of +200pts or so. What is use with such an estimate?

there are several attempts to map and your guess is on right ball bark. But the thing is that at best such an conversion has accuracy of +200pts or so. What is use with such an estimate?
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@Viohl

Thanks for your resposnse.

Problem is, it makes no sense that USCF is lesser than FIDE (in ChessGoals) since 2000 FIDE is around 2100 USCF.

Similarly, 2100 USCF is easier than 2100 FIDE, so it makes no sense at chessrating site. It makes me wonder whether the information is actually accurate.

@Viohl Thanks for your resposnse. Problem is, it makes no sense that USCF is lesser than FIDE (in ChessGoals) since 2000 FIDE is around 2100 USCF. Similarly, 2100 USCF is easier than 2100 FIDE, so it makes no sense at chessrating site. It makes me wonder whether the information is actually accurate.

Lichess 'classical' like 30+20 is much faster that real over the board FIDE classical like 90+30.
30+20 is even rapid per official definition.

The highest rated lichess classical player is IM Unicorn7Love at 2745.
His FIDE classical rating is 2338.
So the difference is 2745 - 2338 = 407

Lichess 'classical' like 30+20 is much faster that real over the board FIDE classical like 90+30. 30+20 is even rapid per official definition. The highest rated lichess classical player is IM Unicorn7Love at 2745. His FIDE classical rating is 2338. So the difference is 2745 - 2338 = 407

@tpr said ^

Lichess 'classical' like 30+20 is much faster that real over the board FIDE classical like 90+30.
30+20 is even rapid per official definition.

The highest rated lichess classical player is IM Unicorn7Love at 2745.
His FIDE classical rating is 2338.
So the difference is 2745 - 2338 = 407

2745 classical might mean 2338 FIDE, but the 407 difference definitely can't be for all ratings. I was wondering if there's any sort of graphs that studied such correlation.

I am aware 30+20 is much faster than FIDE, but it's at least the closest between all time controls. People can easily say X online rapid is between Y to Z FIDE. However, I can't find an accurate information that converts classical properly.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/VOMwuyHE) > Lichess 'classical' like 30+20 is much faster that real over the board FIDE classical like 90+30. > 30+20 is even rapid per official definition. > > The highest rated lichess classical player is IM Unicorn7Love at 2745. > His FIDE classical rating is 2338. > So the difference is 2745 - 2338 = 407 2745 classical might mean 2338 FIDE, but the 407 difference definitely can't be for all ratings. I was wondering if there's any sort of graphs that studied such correlation. I am aware 30+20 is much faster than FIDE, but it's at least the closest between all time controls. People can easily say X online rapid is between Y to Z FIDE. However, I can't find an accurate information that converts classical properly.

"407 difference definitely can't be for all ratings"

  • It should. If you want, you can generate more data points: take from the lichess leaderboard and then look up their FIDE rating.

"I am aware 30+20 is much faster than FIDE"

  • It is much closer to 15+10 than to 90+30. Officially 30+20 is rapid, not classical.

"I can't find an accurate information that converts classical properly."

  • It will never be accurate: classical is less played online and even if it is, it is a much faster kind of classical, i.e. closer to rapid.
"407 difference definitely can't be for all ratings" * It should. If you want, you can generate more data points: take from the lichess leaderboard and then look up their FIDE rating. "I am aware 30+20 is much faster than FIDE" * It is much closer to 15+10 than to 90+30. Officially 30+20 is rapid, not classical. "I can't find an accurate information that converts classical properly." * It will never be accurate: classical is less played online and even if it is, it is a much faster kind of classical, i.e. closer to rapid.

"It should. If you want, you can generate more data points: take from the lichess leaderboard and then look up their FIDE rating."

It definitely shouldn't. Also, to make actual data points I need to go through so many people's classical ratings to get an accurate approximation, and that is if they even made their FIDE account public.

"It is much closer to 15+10 than to 90+30. Officially 30+20 is rapid, not classical."

You are definitely not getting the point here, and that's irrelevant to the topic. I made it clear that I was questioning why people can translate online rapid but not classical. Even if it's played less than the other time controls, there's still a big number of people to generate data.

"It will never be accurate: classical is less played online and even if it is, it is a much faster kind of classical, i.e. closer to rapid."

It definitely can. I've already seen online rapid correctly being translated into approximate FIDE rating. In fact, after encountering so many people I can easily estimate anyone's respective FIDE Elo just based on their ratings. I also realized that the slower the time control, the easier it is for me to guess properly. However, this is at cc. Coming to lichess, I realized there's also 30+0 and 30+20 pools that have more players compared to the other website.

The easiest way for me to know is to ask someone around 2200 lichess classical what's their FIDE, but I'm unaware of the community here and not sure where I can find such a person.

"It should. If you want, you can generate more data points: take from the lichess leaderboard and then look up their FIDE rating." It definitely shouldn't. Also, to make actual data points I need to go through so many people's classical ratings to get an accurate approximation, and that is if they even made their FIDE account public. "It is much closer to 15+10 than to 90+30. Officially 30+20 is rapid, not classical." You are definitely not getting the point here, and that's irrelevant to the topic. I made it clear that I was questioning why people can translate online rapid but not classical. Even if it's played less than the other time controls, there's still a big number of people to generate data. "It will never be accurate: classical is less played online and even if it is, it is a much faster kind of classical, i.e. closer to rapid." It definitely can. I've already seen online rapid correctly being translated into approximate FIDE rating. In fact, after encountering so many people I can easily estimate anyone's respective FIDE Elo just based on their ratings. I also realized that the slower the time control, the easier it is for me to guess properly. However, this is at cc. Coming to lichess, I realized there's also 30+0 and 30+20 pools that have more players compared to the other website. The easiest way for me to know is to ask someone around 2200 lichess classical what's their FIDE, but I'm unaware of the community here and not sure where I can find such a person.

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