"classical chess exists"
- Even in classical chess you cannot think 12-15 minutes average per move.
"You are talking as if time spent when making a move is to find whether a tactic exists or doesent in the first place."
- When playing you have to find out if a tactic exists + solve the tactics puzzle, hence more than solving only.
"classical chess exists"
* Even in classical chess you cannot think 12-15 minutes average per move.
"You are talking as if time spent when making a move is to find whether a tactic exists or doesent in the first place."
* When playing you have to find out if a tactic exists + solve the tactics puzzle, hence more than solving only.
@Kaan_Burak said ^
- How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
If you're solving the puzzles for Classical or Rapid, 12-15 mins is too long.
These times are good:
Very easy: 10-15 sec
Easy: 30-35 sec
Normal: 1-2 mins
Hard: 3-3,5 mins
Very hard: 5 mins
A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long? I am not aure any normal llayer can fully solve a 2500 lichess puzzle in 1 to 2 mins usually, unless they use intuition without calculating all the lines.
Your time periods are way too rigid and over generalised, sure at lower puzzle ratings its possible, but no way at 2500.
The practical point of doing puzzles for improvement from a players perspective is not to "find the best move" per se, but to calculate all the possible promising moves in the position accurately and then ake ur conclusion on what the best move is.
@Kaan_Burak said [^](/forum/redirect/post/vPzOp32Q)
> > 1. How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
>
> If you're solving the puzzles for Classical or Rapid, 12-15 mins is too long.
> These times are good:
> Very easy: 10-15 sec
> Easy: 30-35 sec
> Normal: 1-2 mins
> Hard: 3-3,5 mins
> Very hard: 5 mins
A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long? I am not aure any normal llayer can fully solve a 2500 lichess puzzle in 1 to 2 mins usually, unless they use intuition without calculating all the lines.
Your time periods are way too rigid and over generalised, sure at lower puzzle ratings its possible, but no way at 2500.
The practical point of doing puzzles for improvement from a players perspective is not to "find the best move" per se, but to calculate all the possible promising moves in the position accurately and then ake ur conclusion on what the best move is.
"A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long?"
I'm saying for 30+0 classical games.
"A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long?"
I'm saying for 30+0 classical games.
@Chesss_Is_The_Life said ^
- How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
thats quite long but probably still normal because of the high rating , i am at 1900-2000 and take around 2-3 min easy puzzle 5 min normal puzzle 5+ min hard puzzle .
@Chesss_Is_The_Life said [^](/forum/redirect/post/EoXeFrou)
> 1. How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
thats quite long but probably still normal because of the high rating , i am at 1900-2000 and take around 2-3 min easy puzzle 5 min normal puzzle 5+ min hard puzzle .
@Kaan_Burak said ^
"A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long?"
I'm saying for 30+0 classical games.
IRL 30min is rapid, classical is at least 60
@Kaan_Burak said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Exf9nHMS)
> "A classical game is 1 hr+ long, how is 15 mins in the critical phase of the game too long?"
>
> I'm saying for 30+0 classical games.
IRL 30min is rapid, classical is at least 60
@tpr said ^
"classical chess exists"
- Even in classical chess you cannot think 12-15 minutes average per move.
As I said, yes noone spends 12-15 mins per move in classical chess, but they definitely do spend 12-15 mins in critical positions in the game that impact the result of the game, aka the positions shown in puzzles.
"You are talking as if time spent when making a move is to find whether a tactic exists or doesent in the first place."
- When playing you have to find out if a tactic exists + solve the tactics puzzle, hence more than solving only.
Your completely forgetting about the difficulty of the puzzle.
Also, the process of finding out if a tactic exists involves finding the main theme of tactic in the position, which u gotta do in the puzzle aswell.
@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/uSq8fkyD)
> "classical chess exists"
> * Even in classical chess you cannot think 12-15 minutes average per move.
As I said, yes noone spends 12-15 mins per move in classical chess, but they definitely do spend 12-15 mins in critical positions in the game that impact the result of the game, aka the positions shown in puzzles.
> "You are talking as if time spent when making a move is to find whether a tactic exists or doesent in the first place."
> * When playing you have to find out if a tactic exists + solve the tactics puzzle, hence more than solving only.
Your completely forgetting about the difficulty of the puzzle.
Also, the process of finding out if a tactic exists involves finding the main theme of tactic in the position, which u gotta do in the puzzle aswell.
If solving puzzles is your hobby, or for some related purpose other than improving chess skills, you can break down a puzzle solution into smaller sessions. In each session, you can allocate time up to when you decide it’s time to stop (usually between 10 minutes and 1 hour), and spread this over multiple sessions to avoid overload or exhaustion. Rather than trying to solve a puzzle in one go—typically with a time limit of no more than 5 hours—you can extend the total time to 50 hours (if you have enough patience); theoretically, there’s no limit. With such ample time, you have enough time and mental effort to fully solve a puzzle. This also helps you increase your puzzle rating much faster than by guessing. If your goal is solely to improve chess skills, then you shouldn’t use this method. This is my approach, and it has proven successful for me, as I’ve reached a high ranking.
If solving puzzles is your hobby, or for some related purpose other than improving chess skills, you can break down a puzzle solution into smaller sessions. In each session, you can allocate time up to when you decide it’s time to stop (usually between 10 minutes and 1 hour), and spread this over multiple sessions to avoid overload or exhaustion. Rather than trying to solve a puzzle in one go—typically with a time limit of no more than 5 hours—you can extend the total time to 50 hours (if you have enough patience); theoretically, there’s no limit. With such ample time, you have enough time and mental effort to fully solve a puzzle. This also helps you increase your puzzle rating much faster than by guessing. If your goal is solely to improve chess skills, then you shouldn’t use this method. This is my approach, and it has proven successful for me, as I’ve reached a high ranking.
@logicticpuzzle said ^
If solving puzzles is your hobby, or for some related purpose other than improving chess skills, you can break down a puzzle solution into smaller sessions. In each session, you can allocate time up to when you decide it’s time to stop (usually between 10 minutes and 1 hour), and spread this over multiple sessions to avoid overload or exhaustion. Rather than trying to solve a puzzle in one go—typi...
Personally, I'd rather die than spend 50 hrs on a chess puzzle but thanks for the reply
@logicticpuzzle said [^](/forum/redirect/post/FVprFWP2)
> If solving puzzles is your hobby, or for some related purpose other than improving chess skills, you can break down a puzzle solution into smaller sessions. In each session, you can allocate time up to when you decide it’s time to stop (usually between 10 minutes and 1 hour), and spread this over multiple sessions to avoid overload or exhaustion. Rather than trying to solve a puzzle in one go—typi...
Personally, I'd rather die than spend 50 hrs on a chess puzzle but thanks for the reply
@Chesss_Is_The_Life said ^
- How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
You can take as long as you want. The goal is to solve the puzzle correctly, not a speed contest. As your experience grows, you should get faster over time.
- Sometimes when solving puzzles, I find that I am able to refute all my candidate move options except 1 and that one move does look winning.
If you cannot visualize the complete sequence but confident of the first move, go ahead and make it. Once the new position appears, repeat the process.
@Chesss_Is_The_Life said [^](/forum/redirect/post/EoXeFrou)
> 1. How long should I generally take for a chess puzzle? Currently rated at 2500 lichess puzzle rating, taking an avg of 12-15 mins per puzzle.
You can take as long as you want. The goal is to solve the puzzle correctly, not a speed contest. As your experience grows, you should get faster over time.
>
> 2. Sometimes when solving puzzles, I find that I am able to refute all my candidate move options except 1 and that one move does look winning.
If you cannot visualize the complete sequence but confident of the first move, go ahead and make it. Once the new position appears, repeat the process.
With your rating, this method usually doesn’t take more than 3 hours.
With your rating, this method usually doesn’t take more than 3 hours.