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The bad sportsmanship

no-one has mentioned the "click the two squares" for moving, instead of drag and drop. in your preferences

no-one has mentioned the "click the two squares" for moving, instead of drag and drop. in your preferences

@gmoralesg17 said in #1:

Sometimes I release acccidentally the mouse before of time and I ask the take back or offer the draw to the opponent, if he didn't accept, is this considered a bad sportsmanship in the chess world?
I consider asking takeback as bad sportsmanship. I blunder with mouse I press resign. I fail to understand the existence of takeback option and never will.

And hence long time ago I took the useless feature away from my settings.

@gmoralesg17 said in #1: > Sometimes I release acccidentally the mouse before of time and I ask the take back or offer the draw to the opponent, if he didn't accept, is this considered a bad sportsmanship in the chess world? I consider asking takeback as bad sportsmanship. I blunder with mouse I press resign. I fail to understand the existence of takeback option and never will. And hence long time ago I took the useless feature away from my settings.

If you know each other then take backs are cool, but if you play a stranger, in a rated game, then I don't give take backs as I dont know if they dont fool me.

If you know each other then take backs are cool, but if you play a stranger, in a rated game, then I don't give take backs as I dont know if they dont fool me.

In the online chess world, it is not a bad sportsmanship to not give you the take back, using the mouse well is part of the game, if you have these issues quite often you can turn on "Move Confirmation" which asks you to click on a button to confirm the move after you drop the piece, so you get a chance to cancel the move if you put the piece on a wrong square.

In the online chess world, it is not a bad sportsmanship to not give you the take back, using the mouse well is part of the game, if you have these issues quite often you can turn on "Move Confirmation" which asks you to click on a button to confirm the move after you drop the piece, so you get a chance to cancel the move if you put the piece on a wrong square.

@Tbootpoo said in #6:

However enabling move confirm makes sense,but it doesnt help your time sadly.

You mean the part about the opponent refusing to accept a draw because the OP doesn't have time to finish the game. If I get that right, then the only thing sad is the OP calling it bad sportsmanship.

Am I missing something? Perhaps I misinterpreted the original post, which was kind of cryptic on time. Time is part of the rules

@Tbootpoo said in #6: > However enabling move confirm makes sense,but it doesnt help your time sadly. You mean the part about the opponent refusing to accept a draw because the OP doesn't have time to finish the game. If I get that right, then the only thing sad is the OP calling it bad sportsmanship. Am I missing something? Perhaps I misinterpreted the original post, which was kind of cryptic on time. Time is part of the rules

If I ever asked for takebacks myself, I would consider giving them. But I don't and won't. If I screw up, that's my accident not the opponent's.

Perhaps that seems harsh to some ... but it's even-handed. I have lost my share of games from mouse slips. And learned to be a bit more careful, as a result.

Part of my attitude comes from -- over the years -- a LOT of outright blunders suddenly being called "mouse slips" by an opponent who realizes, after moving, that it was a straight up blunder.

I could take 10 seconds or so during blitz to attempt mentally to separate the wheat from the chaff -- i.e. the genuine mouse slips from the blunder excuses. But I think it's better to just stick with the rules -- and "mouse slips" are analogous to "touch move," in my opinion.

Besides, it's one chess game -- not a proposal of marriage. A loss in a chess game is not the end of the world, so there's little reason for drama, in my opinion.

When I mouse slip and lose, I just suck it up and move on. I don't think it's the opponent's duty, moral or otherwise, to protect me from my own mistakes. I think that's the right attitude, but I don't profess to speak for everybody.

Indeed, I clearly don't since I can recall plenty of angry demands for a take back. Refusing a take-back demand inspires some people to act as if the refuser is Ebenezer Scrooge. If they had chains, they'd rattle 'em at me, I believe. But losing a chess game is NOT like going without Christmas dinner.

I didn't realize that take-backs could be turned off. Thanks for the info.

If I ever asked for takebacks myself, I would consider giving them. But I don't and won't. If I screw up, that's my accident not the opponent's. Perhaps that seems harsh to some ... but it's even-handed. I have lost my share of games from mouse slips. And learned to be a bit more careful, as a result. Part of my attitude comes from -- over the years -- a LOT of outright blunders suddenly being called "mouse slips" by an opponent who realizes, after moving, that it was a straight up blunder. I could take 10 seconds or so during blitz to attempt mentally to separate the wheat from the chaff -- i.e. the genuine mouse slips from the blunder excuses. But I think it's better to just stick with the rules -- and "mouse slips" are analogous to "touch move," in my opinion. Besides, it's one chess game -- not a proposal of marriage. A loss in a chess game is not the end of the world, so there's little reason for drama, in my opinion. When I mouse slip and lose, I just suck it up and move on. I don't think it's the opponent's duty, moral or otherwise, to protect me from my own mistakes. I think that's the right attitude, but I don't profess to speak for everybody. Indeed, I clearly don't since I can recall plenty of angry demands for a take back. Refusing a take-back demand inspires some people to act as if the refuser is Ebenezer Scrooge. If they had chains, they'd rattle 'em at me, I believe. But losing a chess game is NOT like going without Christmas dinner. I didn't realize that take-backs could be turned off. Thanks for the info.

@gmoralesg17 said in #1:

is this considered a bad sportsmanship in the chess world?
Nope.

@gmoralesg17 said in #1: > is this considered a bad sportsmanship in the chess world? Nope.

@ilyes_dev said in #14:

In the online chess world, it is not a bad sportsmanship to not give you the take back, using the mouse well is part of the game, if you have these issues quite often you can turn on "Move Confirmation" which asks you to click on a button to confirm the move after you drop the piece, so you get a chance to cancel the move if you put the piece on a wrong square.

yeah true

@ilyes_dev said in #14: > In the online chess world, it is not a bad sportsmanship to not give you the take back, using the mouse well is part of the game, if you have these issues quite often you can turn on "Move Confirmation" which asks you to click on a button to confirm the move after you drop the piece, so you get a chance to cancel the move if you put the piece on a wrong square. yeah true

To avoid mouse-slips, try clicking on the piece first and then clicking on the destination square.
This stops inaccuracies within the slide method.

With regards to takebacks. Not only do I think that takebacks should be refused - this is chess, not snap -
but I would like a technology which ascertains when the piece is touched and makes you use it,
as in over the board chess.

To avoid mouse-slips, try clicking on the piece first and then clicking on the destination square. This stops inaccuracies within the slide method. With regards to takebacks. Not only do I think that takebacks should be refused - this is chess, not snap - but I would like a technology which ascertains when the piece is touched and makes you use it, as in over the board chess.

Sportsmanship is a subjective term. If you find it to be offensive you can call it bad.
For me, not resigning in hopelessly lost position is bad sportsmanship but if I report it as trolling, no one will take action as it is not considered bad according to others. If we run a platform, we can define sportsmanship however we want.

Sportsmanship is a subjective term. If you find it to be offensive you can call it bad. For me, not resigning in hopelessly lost position is bad sportsmanship but if I report it as trolling, no one will take action as it is not considered bad according to others. If we run a platform, we can define sportsmanship however we want.

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