Which is worse? Cheating or sandbagging a cheater?

Calm down everyone he's already been banned for name, trolling, and sandbagging , dealt with swiftly by mods , end of ,until he shows up next time xxx don't always take the bait I didn't get involved reported and moved on xxx

@SimonBirch said in #41:

Calm down everyone he's already been banned for name, trolling, and sandbagging , dealt with swiftly by mods , end of ,until he shows up next time xxx don't always take the bait I didn't get involved reported and moved on xxx

big oof

@Cedur216 said in #42:

big oof

What'd you mean big oof?

The fact that he's closed, not your post

@Cedur216 said in #44:

The fact that he's closed, not your post
Oh ok sorry yes big hoof .....get out xxx

@Hagredion said in #39:

Both cheating and sandbagging are against the rules, that's all that matters. However one thing that everybody in this thread misses is that you can de facto sandbag your rating in a way that's not even against the rules. How? By zerking a lot of games. Now it's true that the great majority of people who zerk don't do it with the intention to sandbag their rating but the effect is still there so in my opinion games in which one of the players zerks should not be rated.

If you play a 4+60 tournament it is a classical, when both berserk it is bullet.... so it would be ok to change the bullet rating in such a case.
But it should stay rated, otherwise one opponent could decide to play an unrated game instead of a rated game. Maybe deduct 1 one poinr from a team when you loose three berserked games in a row....

At least in sandbagging, you still need some skill to overpower your lower rated opponents.
Using engines (cheating) does not require skill at all, so I say cheating is worse.

@The_Blue_J said in #47:

At least in sandbagging, you still need some skill to overpower your lower rated opponents.
Using engines (cheating) does not require skill at all, so I say cheating is worse.

Do you really mean that crimes with more criminal energy are better than the crimes every dump person could commit?

@Murphy_the_Irish_red said in #48:

Do you really mean that crimes with more criminal energy are better than the crimes every dumb person could commit?
They both lead to the same outcome though, when comparing the 2 crimes, getting arrested for doing something with skill feels better in my opinion, when you consider that no matter what you do you get banned

Both are bad because both are a form of cheating