Who do you consider the greatest chess player in history (GOAT): Kasparov, Carlsen, Fischer or Capab

"what Lasker's 1911 terms said about the venue issue?"

• 'The Champion to decide the place and time of the match'

"1921 events necessarily indicate what would have been relevant, a decade earlier?"

• Lasker was older in 1921 than in 1911, so his concern in 1911 about the climate in Havanna was even more relevant in 1921.
  He pleaded ill health to resign the match after 4 losses, while 6 were needed.

@tpr said in #54:

... There was a quarrel between Lasker and Capablanca starting 1911: Lasker was willing to play Capablanca, but not in Havanna because of the climate. A few months later Lasker drew up 17 terms, of which Capablanca found 6 satisfactory and he wrote so. ...

@tpr said in #58:

Capablanca insisted on playing in Havanna, as his money sponsors were there, and Lasker rejected that because of the climate.

@tpr said in #83:

... 'I do not think that I shall care to play in a semi-tropical climate more than a few games' - Lasker 1911. ...

@tpr said in #88:

... Lasker drew up 17 terms in 1911. ...

@tpr said in #106:

... Capablanca did not object to the +1 requirement, but to the 30 games limit. ...

@kindaspongey said in #110:

... AGAIN, Capablanca wrote:
"... I cannot agree to your provision that should the match be won by score of 1 to 0, 2 to 1, or 3 to 2, it would be declared drawn, and you retain the title. ... such a march ... would be more in the nature of a handicap contest, wherein I ... would be compelled to give you a handicap of one game. I do not presume to be able to do that, ..."

Does tpr deny that that is a Capablanca objection to the so-called "+1 requirement"? ...

@tpr said in #111:

"what Lasker's 1911 terms said about the venue issue?" ... "1921 events necessarily indicate what would have been relevant, a decade earlier?" ...

So, perhaps tpr no longer wants to claim that "Capablanca did not object to the +1 requirement"?

@kindaspongey said in #110:

... Does tpr want to tell us the first 17 words of what Lasker's 1911 terms said about the venue issue? ...

@tpr said in #111:

... 'The Champion to decide the place and time of the match' ...

So, perhaps tpr no longer wants to claim that "Lasker rejected [Havanna] because of the climate"?

@kindaspongey said in #110:

... Does tpr want to tell us the first 9 words of what Capablanca wrote about the venue issue (in the same communication that made the "obvious" comment)? ...

I guess not. Does tpr still claim that "Capablanca insisted on playing in Havanna"?

@tpr said in #106:

... Capablanca did not reach the required 6 wins, as Lasker resigned after 4 losses, pleading ill health.
So the climate in Havanna was more relevant than the +1, or the 30. ...

@kindaspongey said in #110:

... Again, do 1921 events necessarily indicate what would have been relevant, a decade earlier? ...

@tpr said in #111:

... Lasker was older in 1921 than in 1911, so his concern in 1911 about the climate in Havanna was even more relevant in 1921. ...

So, perhaps tpr agrees that 1921 events do not necessarily indicate what would have been relevant, a decade earlier?

The iceberg collision was now ~51 hours ago. As I write this, there are now 38 discussions above this one in the topic list. Perhaps, there is no real reason to be concerned about us all turning into rusticles down here. (I suppose that that might be the eventual fate of whatever AIs are lurking among us.) Ballard reported seeing pairs of shoes here and there. Apparently, microbes had consumed the rest. Perhaps the organics among us should put our names on our shoes to aid future visitors with identification.

Guys, I think we've made a breakthrough. 112 messages.

Thank you

I try for you

This forum post is going too far bruh.

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/who-is-the-real-goat-greatest-of-all-time

Vishy Anand inspired the whole generation of Indian chess after him. If you are the reason there are consistently 4-5 Indian super GM youngsters, I'd say you're pretty dominant.

@crusader5 said ^

Huh,I still don't get it. If it compares to peers,he still has the most elo. isn't he like the champion too? Also,who are those peers?

yes, but he is not compared to players before him, like Fischer, or Kasparov, because they are not playing right now

Actually, thanks for explaining this! (I am new to chess) it explained something I didn't actually know.
Warmest wishes from Sweden!