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Who is stronger: Carlsen or Kasparov?

Gotta be practical. Back in '04, even a draw was a real accomplishment. A few years on, things might've been a bit more balanced out, I reckon.

Gotta be practical. Back in '04, even a draw was a real accomplishment. A few years on, things might've been a bit more balanced out, I reckon.

AND he was 41 years old. The average age for new grandmasters in the early 2000s was their early 20s!

AND he was 41 years old. The average age for new grandmasters in the early 2000s was their early 20s!

@lizani said ^

[Kasparov's] style is purer - aiming for dynamic chess rather than grinding.

Preach.

I would add to this that Kasparov has had a massive impact on the culture of chess, even outside of his fanbase. He has a legacy. Meanwhile Carlsen has been out of the game for only, what, half a decade? and already I feel like most people have moved on.

@lizani said [^](/forum/redirect/post/lZuu9kXK) > [Kasparov's] style is purer - aiming for dynamic chess rather than grinding. *Preach.* I would add to this that Kasparov has had a massive impact on the culture of chess, even outside of his fanbase. He has a legacy. Meanwhile Carlsen has been out of the game for only, what, half a decade? and already I feel like most people have moved on.

Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization.

Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization.

@Nordlandia said ^

Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization.

And how does this contribute?

@Nordlandia said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Qg1Nwi9b) > Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization. And how does this contribute?

@TheDifferenceOfTier5 said ^

carlson got a higher rating so he is better. and you can't say he's better because of his style

ELO is inflating constantly. The original implementation had a problem because strong players accumulated points and then retired, and that made the system deflate. That's a huge deal, because if margins shrink you can no longer tell who's stronger, and thus the system becomes useless. To fix this they made the system inflationary instead, by spawning some of the points you get out of nowhere under some circumstances. Those magical points spawn out of thin air and keep the system inflating.

@TheDifferenceOfTier5 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/5e0f29vP) > carlson got a higher rating so he is better. and you can't say he's better because of his style ELO is inflating constantly. The original implementation had a problem because strong players accumulated points and then retired, and that made the system deflate. That's a huge deal, because if margins shrink you can no longer tell who's stronger, and thus the system becomes useless. To fix this they made the system inflationary instead, by spawning some of the points you get out of nowhere under some circumstances. Those magical points spawn out of thin air and keep the system inflating.

@NotMagnusCarlsen42 said ^

Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization.

And how does this contribute?

Make no mistake, Fischer in his prime was an openings theory expert. in fact, most other GMs in his time were scared of his preparation. it was only later in life that Fischer started holding the view that studying openings was a bad thing (and invented chess960), similar to how Carlsen feels now

@NotMagnusCarlsen42 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/SjjB8WmM) > > Magnus has picked up the baton/mantle from Fischer. Magnus is tired of the constant work on theory. He prefers chess without theory as it emphasizes talent rather than rote memorization. > > And how does this contribute? Make no mistake, Fischer in his prime was an openings theory expert. in fact, most other GMs in his time were scared of his preparation. it was only later in life that Fischer started holding the view that studying openings was a bad thing (and invented chess960), similar to how Carlsen feels now

Based on my research, it appears that FiDE wish to preserve classical chess by designating the World Freestyle Tournament as a rapid event. They believe that if the tournament adopted a longer time format, even half, like such as 45+15 or 30 minutes, it would undermine traditional chess.

Based on my research, it appears that FiDE wish to preserve classical chess by designating the World Freestyle Tournament as a rapid event. They believe that if the tournament adopted a longer time format, even half, like such as 45+15 or 30 minutes, it would undermine traditional chess.