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#1:

whenever i face french with white im just bamboozled because in exchange u cant play for a win basically in advanced i always make mistakes and classical or tarrasch needs prep One line with 2. Nf3 works online but otb?? Pls tell me a counter

Retreat the pawn from e4 back to e3 and see how the opponent reacts to their own opening. :-)

#1: > whenever i face french with white im just bamboozled because in exchange u cant play for a win basically in advanced i always make mistakes and classical or tarrasch needs prep One line with 2. Nf3 works online but otb?? Pls tell me a counter Retreat the pawn from e4 back to e3 and see how the opponent reacts to their own opening. :-)

tpr

#21
1 e3 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 exd4 d5 transposes to the regular exchange variation.

#21 1 e3 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 exd4 d5 transposes to the regular exchange variation.

tpr

#13
"their greater experience in the Exchange is still enough to outweigh White's extra tempo" * Not really. White may play the same setup against the Petrov. I guess white sees French + Petrov more than black sees the Exchange Variation.

"4. Nf3 is a mediocre move." * You should tell Gukesh
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2808088
And you should also tell Ding Liren not to play 4...Nf6.

"Even in symmetrical positions, Black tends to score better." * That is impossible: the tempo is a clear but small advantage. If it were not, then white should lose a tempo with say a3, or Be2 and Bd3.

"The King's Indian Defense" * Yes is not considered sound now after Kramnik beat Kasparov with it. However, in the King's Indian Attack white has an extra tempo. Moreover 'I thought it led to a favorable variation of the King's Indian reversed, particularly after Black has committed himself with ...e6.' - Fischer. In other words e3 is not a way to refute the King's Indian Defense.

"1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6." * Nowadays they are back to Steinitz' 4 e5.

"Openings evolve over time" * Like fashion.

#13 "their greater experience in the Exchange is still enough to outweigh White's extra tempo" * Not really. White may play the same setup against the Petrov. I guess white sees French + Petrov more than black sees the Exchange Variation. "4. Nf3 is a mediocre move." * You should tell Gukesh https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2808088 And you should also tell Ding Liren not to play 4...Nf6. "Even in symmetrical positions, Black tends to score better." * That is impossible: the tempo is a clear but small advantage. If it were not, then white should lose a tempo with say a3, or Be2 and Bd3. "The King's Indian Defense" * Yes is not considered sound now after Kramnik beat Kasparov with it. However, in the King's Indian Attack white has an extra tempo. Moreover 'I thought it led to a favorable variation of the King's Indian reversed, particularly after Black has committed himself with ...e6.' - Fischer. In other words e3 is not a way to refute the King's Indian Defense. "1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6." * Nowadays they are back to Steinitz' 4 e5. "Openings evolve over time" * Like fashion.

tpr

#12
The King's Indian Attack is a good way. It does double duty against the Sicilian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 d3.
Also Bronstein played it frequently
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1034577

#12 The King's Indian Attack is a good way. It does double duty against the Sicilian: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 d3. Also Bronstein played it frequently https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1034577

gaurav_darsh

Guys chill I am a beginner player and asked you guys for help not to criticize me....

Cedur216

@gaurav_darsh said ^

Guys chill I am a beginner player and asked you guys for help not to criticize me....

I mean, what helpful response do you expect to the blunt question "why does french exist"
if you start with "exchange I can't play for a win", that's just straight false (for beginner level it definitely is)

also why is your account banned

@gaurav_darsh said [^](/forum/redirect/post/4HA24iuh) > Guys chill I am a beginner player and asked you guys for help not to criticize me.... I mean, what helpful response do you expect to the blunt question "why does french exist" if you start with "exchange I can't play for a win", that's just straight false (for beginner level it definitely is) also why is your account banned

gaurav_darsh

@Cedur216 My acc banned for using chat badly and also i have played many practice games against mira 1500 bot and i usually end up in a draw when i play exchange french

qpalzm123456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKxlT73xpYo

Cedur216

@gaurav_darsh said ^

@Cedur216 My acc banned for using chat badly

if that was the case then you couldn't communicate with us in this forum, but whatever.

and also i have played many practice games against mira 1500 bot and i usually end up in a draw when i play exchange french

What bot? This site or elsewhere? If you mean Maia5, then I don't see any games of yours against it.

@gaurav_darsh said [^](/forum/redirect/post/BrYO5Kuw) > @Cedur216 My acc banned for using chat badly if that was the case then you couldn't communicate with us in this forum, but whatever. > and also i have played many practice games against mira 1500 bot and i usually end up in a draw when i play exchange french What bot? This site or elsewhere? If you mean Maia5, then I don't see any games of yours against it.

chessedu2025

The French Defense is a good defense for Black; it's useful, balanced, and stable. It's very entertaining to play, and you can play a very interesting game against it. My recommendation against it is to play: e4, e6, d4, d5, exd5, exd5 and then Qf3!? (only for players rated 2000 Elo or below). If they have a higher rating, it's better to just play the advance with a3.