By the way, there is a very interesting topic mentioned in the article on the E numbers which is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_label
It has good intentions ("no unnecessary chemicals in foods") but can be turned into a possibly undesired "competition".
tl;dr: Form a recipe for an industrially processed food in a way so that compounds need not be named on the ingredient list or look as harmless as possible. This is a hot topic for example in pre-baked foods where such compounds are often special enzymes.
All I write in this posting is from a German tv feature: "Billige Brötchen: Die Spur der Teiglinge.".
By the way, there is a very interesting topic mentioned in the article on the E numbers which is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_label
It has good intentions ("no unnecessary chemicals in foods") but can be turned into a possibly undesired "competition".
tl;dr: Form a recipe for an industrially processed food in a way so that compounds need not be named on the ingredient list or look as harmless as possible. This is a hot topic for example in pre-baked foods where such compounds are often special enzymes.
All I write in this posting is from a German tv feature: "Billige Brötchen: Die Spur der Teiglinge.".
@anonymous_III said ^
I have 2 main hobbies, one is communism (& the persuit of wealth), the other is food safety.
I like chemistry, but did not persue it further, because... the application to university requires me to write a 2 pdf-pages long text on chemistry... (I regret not writing that now, it would have been so easy to do...)
Anyway, I am pretty concerned about food additives, pesticides and growth enhancers, because while these technically need approval by governmental food safety,it is not hidden that companies have used every public disinformation in the book, including bribing 'scientists' and politicians, extending lawsuits the longest possible and silencing critics. (Think cocaine, meat industry & pesticides)
Is there anywhere to inform myself about this issue (best case open to everyone thus nonpartisan), are bio products really "bad" chemical free and what chemicals are really in my food?
I have waited a long time to make this post, because I always wanted to first 'inform' myself and write about how we should not take ANY food with xy in it. But researching topics never ends and I could never really find any consistent source...
I do not care if a food "may" contain chemicals that "may" contribute to deseases, I just want to avoid these. And large discounters just want to keep their prices the lowest possible, they do not care about stuff like this.
this is too long for my brain to understand ;)
@anonymous_III said [^](/forum/redirect/post/hceR6Pqk)
> I have 2 main hobbies, one is communism (& the persuit of wealth), the other is food safety.
>
> I like chemistry, but did not persue it further, because... the application to university requires me to write a 2 pdf-pages long text on chemistry... (I regret not writing that now, it would have been so easy to do...)
>
> Anyway, I am pretty concerned about food additives, pesticides and growth enhancers, because while these technically need approval by governmental food safety,it is not hidden that companies have used every public disinformation in the book, including bribing 'scientists' and politicians, extending lawsuits the longest possible and silencing critics. (Think cocaine, meat industry & pesticides)
>
> Is there anywhere to inform myself about this issue (best case open to everyone thus nonpartisan), are bio products really "bad" chemical free and what chemicals are really in my food?
>
> > I have waited a long time to make this post, because I always wanted to first 'inform' myself and write about how we should not take ANY food with xy in it. But researching topics never ends and I could never really find any consistent source...
>
> I do not care if a food "may" contain chemicals that "may" contribute to deseases, I just want to avoid these. And large discounters just want to keep their prices the lowest possible, they do not care about stuff like this.
this is too long for my brain to understand ;)
@tpr said ^
Here is a list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number
You see the same additive can be approved, restricted, and banned in different countries.
Where can I find the number? On the packaging inside the list of 'other ingredients'? I am not going to look over every packaging I want to buy to see if E xyz is inside...
Any way to speed up process by looking at brands/tags?
(BTW, gold is allowed to be in our food in the EU (number 174))
@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/XtwCePrJ)
> Here is a list
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number
> You see the same additive can be approved, restricted, and banned in different countries.
Where can I find the number? On the packaging inside the list of 'other ingredients'? I am not going to look over every packaging I want to buy to see if E xyz is inside...
Any way to speed up process by looking at brands/tags?
(BTW, gold is allowed to be in our food in the EU (number 174))
@anonymous_III
I've read a bit on the subject and two of the worse for retention of pesticides are strawberries and peaches.
Concerning also is Monsanto and glyphosate. ( round up) associated with kidney disease .
As I'm sure you're aware many such companies continue to use unhealthy chemicals in the grasp for profit and set aside a certain amount of such profit to settle future litigation.
@anonymous_III
I've read a bit on the subject and two of the worse for retention of pesticides are strawberries and peaches.
Concerning also is Monsanto and glyphosate. ( round up) associated with kidney disease .
As I'm sure you're aware many such companies continue to use unhealthy chemicals in the grasp for profit and set aside a certain amount of such profit to settle future litigation.