Dwarf planet family grows

Of course there's a flood of dwarf planets, that's why we have this category, that's why Pluto is not a planet

Aren't there only 5 official ones? (Though I'd think probably there are a lot more out there that haven't been found yet.)

@LeZweigMecanique said ^

Do you know if people can suggest names? Or do the astronomers decide that among themselves?

I believe the people who discovered it have the right to choose a name, but if they want to, they can allow the public to chip in.

@Cedur216 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Ktw8Z2Sx) > Of course there's a flood of dwarf planets, that's why we have this category, that's why Pluto is not a planet Aren't there only 5 official ones? (Though I'd think probably there are a lot more out there that haven't been found yet.) @LeZweigMecanique said [^](/forum/redirect/post/5d4mxhRT) > Do you know if people can suggest names? Or do the astronomers decide that among themselves? I believe the people who discovered it have the right to choose a name, but if they want to, they can allow the public to chip in.

morphyms1817

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@LeZweigMecanique said ^

Yes thats why its provisional.

Do you know if people can suggest names? Or do the astronomers decide that among themselves?

“Makemake” for number 136472 is an interesting name, by the way. At first glance, you might think it’s nonsense, but it’s actually the name of an ancient deity.

I think the naming process varies according to what type of object (e.g., star, exoplanet, asteroid, comet, etc).

@LeZweigMecanique said [^](/forum/redirect/post/5d4mxhRT) > > > Yes thats why its provisional. > > Do you know if people can suggest names? Or do the astronomers decide that among themselves? > > “Makemake” for number 136472 is an interesting name, by the way. At first glance, you might think it’s nonsense, but it’s actually the name of an ancient deity. I think the naming process varies according to what type of object (e.g., star, exoplanet, asteroid, comet, etc).

Dukedog

@morphyms1817
I did glance at a video abt tt.. it was AI amd i really don't have much patience for AI, get to the point already,superfluous narration doesn't add much.
I do gather it is rather bright to be unnoticed for so long.. .
.A couple of quotations
" There are more things under heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy "
And
"Its a big backyard out there "

I guess what you discover
Depends on where you look

@morphyms1817 I did glance at a video abt tt.. it was AI amd i really don't have much patience for AI, get to the point already,superfluous narration doesn't add much. I do gather it is rather bright to be unnoticed for so long.. . .A couple of quotations " There are more things under heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy " And "Its a big backyard out there " I guess what you discover Depends on where you look Q

morphyms1817

@Dukedog said ^

@morphyms1817
I did glance at a video abt tt.. it was AI amd i really don't have much patience for AI, get to the point already,superfluous narration doesn't add much.
I do gather it is rather bright to be unnoticed for so long.. .
.A couple of quotations
" There are more things under heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy "
And
"Its a big backyard out there "

I gu...

That's not the article I quoted. Phys.org is reputable and the article links no video. I would expect AI slop to copycat, the news though.

@Dukedog said [^](/forum/redirect/post/WUX4yoCN) > @morphyms1817 > I did glance at a video abt tt.. it was AI amd i really don't have much patience for AI, get to the point already,superfluous narration doesn't add much. > I do gather it is rather bright to be unnoticed for so long.. . > .A couple of quotations > " There are more things under heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy " > And > "Its a big backyard out there " > > I gu... That's not the article I quoted. Phys.org is reputable and the article links no video. I would expect AI slop to copycat, the news though.

Cedur216

I thought there was a fairly larger amount of massive Kuiper belt objects and even more distant objects ... and who knows which of these ain't even discovered yet ...

morphyms1817

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@Cedur216 said ^

I thought there was a fairly larger amount of massive Kuiper belt objects and even more distant objects ... and who knows which of these ain't even discovered yet ...

EDITED.

I was mistaken about the criteria I listed before. So I added those correct criteria from Gemini, further below.

@Cedur216 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/OXZ4fkr6) > I thought there was a fairly larger amount of massive Kuiper belt objects and even more distant objects ... and who knows which of these ain't even discovered yet ... EDITED. I was mistaken about the criteria I listed before. So I added those correct criteria from Gemini, further below.

morphyms1817

There are currently five dwarf planets that meet all the criteria. The object in #1 will need further study to become official.

morphyms1817

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Further information from Gemini,

To be classified as a dwarf planet by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), a celestial body must meet four specific requirements:
• Orbit the Sun: It must be in a direct orbit around the Sun and not be a satellite (moon) orbiting another planet.
• Hydrostatic Equilibrium: It must have enough mass for its own self-gravity to pull it into a nearly round (ellipsoid) shape.
• Not clear its neighborhood: Unlike a major planet, it lacks sufficient gravitational dominance to clear other objects and debris out of its orbital path.
• Not be a moon: It must be an independent body in space rather than a natural satellite of a larger planet.

Confirmed Dwarf Planets

Well-known examples recognized by the IAU include:
• Pluto (located in the Kuiper Belt)
• Ceres (located in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter)
• Eris (located in the distant scattered disc / Kuiper Belt)
• Haumea (an egg-shaped dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt)
• Makemake (an icy dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt)

Further information from Gemini, To be classified as a dwarf planet by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), a celestial body must meet four specific requirements: • Orbit the Sun: It must be in a direct orbit around the Sun and not be a satellite (moon) orbiting another planet. • Hydrostatic Equilibrium: It must have enough mass for its own self-gravity to pull it into a nearly round (ellipsoid) shape. • Not clear its neighborhood: Unlike a major planet, it lacks sufficient gravitational dominance to clear other objects and debris out of its orbital path. • Not be a moon: It must be an independent body in space rather than a natural satellite of a larger planet. Confirmed Dwarf Planets Well-known examples recognized by the IAU include: • Pluto (located in the Kuiper Belt) • Ceres (located in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter) • Eris (located in the distant scattered disc / Kuiper Belt) • Haumea (an egg-shaped dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt) • Makemake (an icy dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt)

The_Merry_Chesster

@morphyms1817 I misread this as "Dwarf plant family grows" and thought you'd added another specimen to your growing collection of bonsai trees!

@morphyms1817 I misread this as "Dwarf *plant* family grows" and thought you'd added another specimen to your growing collection of bonsai trees!

morphyms1817

@The_Merry_Chesster said ^

@morphyms1817 I misread this as "Dwarf plant family grows" and thought you'd added another specimen to your growing collection of bonsai trees!

If that were so I would be the first on my block to have a dwarf 2026 ED138 tree!

LOL.

@The_Merry_Chesster said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Ubx7jGLm) > @morphyms1817 I misread this as "Dwarf *plant* family grows" and thought you'd added another specimen to your growing collection of bonsai trees! If that were so I would be the first on my block to have a dwarf 2026 ED138 tree! LOL.