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The ongoing tragedy in Palestine

A bit of perspective:
Hamas attack: 1,195 killed
Russian special military operation in Ukraine: 17,257 killed
Gaza Genocide: 73,400 killed
Rwanda Genocide: 662,000 killed
Holocaust: 6,000,000 killed

A bit of perspective: Hamas attack: 1,195 killed Russian special military operation in Ukraine: 17,257 killed Gaza Genocide: 73,400 killed Rwanda Genocide: 662,000 killed Holocaust: 6,000,000 killed

@tpr it's a WAR, ffs. And it has hundreds of thousands killed on each side.

While there's no indication on your nationality, using the Russian euphemism and coming up with a random underexaggerated number makes me strongly suspect you're Russian

@tpr it's a WAR, ffs. And it has hundreds of thousands killed on each side. While there's no indication on your nationality, using the Russian euphemism and coming up with a random underexaggerated number makes me strongly suspect you're Russian

According to Gemini:

"The UK Ministry of Defence and British intelligence estimate that roughly 500,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the full-scale invasion began in February 2022."

"Estimates put the total number of Ukrainian deaths in the war between 125,000 and 150,000 military deaths (with total military casualties around 525,000 to 625,000), alongside over 17,200 verified civilian deaths."

According to Gemini: "The UK Ministry of Defence and British intelligence estimate that roughly 500,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the full-scale invasion began in February 2022." "Estimates put the total number of Ukrainian deaths in the war between 125,000 and 150,000 military deaths (with total military casualties around 525,000 to 625,000), alongside over 17,200 verified civilian deaths."

@tpr said ^

A bit of perspective:
Hamas attack: 1,195 killed
Russian special military operation in Ukraine: 17,257 killed
Gaza Genocide: 73,400 killed
Rwanda Genocide: 662,000 killed
Holocaust: 6,000,000 killed

The illegal invasion of Ukraine, though having cost the Russians in excess of a quarter of a million lives, is not comparable to the Hamas attack on Israel or Israel’s killing of Palestinians. Russia started the war, broke the ceasefire, and will have to pay the price for its aggression.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/QCF79S9P) > A bit of perspective: > Hamas attack: 1,195 killed > Russian special military operation in Ukraine: 17,257 killed > Gaza Genocide: 73,400 killed > Rwanda Genocide: 662,000 killed > Holocaust: 6,000,000 killed The illegal invasion of Ukraine, though having cost the Russians in excess of a quarter of a million lives, is not comparable to the Hamas attack on Israel or Israel’s killing of Palestinians. Russia started the war, broke the ceasefire, and will have to pay the price for its aggression.

@IamNOTamod said ^

Besides being morally questionable, that argument is wrong

Indeed. It is like saying, "I broke into your house, but I only took a twentieth of the monetary value of your belongings, therefore, I am not a thief".

Or I only fired a rocket at a City in Israel therefore I am not a terrorist ? is that how it goes too?

@IamNOTamod said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Q0CnbjWJ) > > Besides being morally questionable, that argument is wrong > > Indeed. It is like saying, "I broke into your house, but I only took a twentieth of the monetary value of your belongings, therefore, I am not a thief". Or I only fired a rocket at a City in Israel therefore I am not a terrorist ? is that how it goes too?

@MisterKobe said ^

Or I only fired a rocket at a City in Israel therefore I am not a terrorist

No one here is denying that Hamas is a terrorist group. That does not change the fact that what is happening in Gaza is wrong, contrary to what you are implying.

Oh, by the way, did you know that Israel fired many, many more missiles at Gaza than Hamas fired at Israel? And did you know that the Israelis even admitted to targetting certain schools and hospitals (under the guise of eliminating certain Palestinian officials they claimed were Hamas)?

@MisterKobe said [^](/forum/redirect/post/dExbSOhL) > Or I only fired a rocket at a City in Israel therefore I am not a terrorist No one here is denying that Hamas is a terrorist group. That does not change the fact that what is happening in Gaza is wrong, contrary to what you are implying. Oh, by the way, did you know that Israel fired many, many more missiles at Gaza than Hamas fired at Israel? And did you know that the Israelis even admitted to targetting certain schools and hospitals (under the guise of eliminating certain Palestinian officials they claimed were Hamas)?

Israel is still holding 9,187 Palestinians in prison.
https://www.btselem.org/statistics/detainees_and_prisoners
The rationale for the Hamas raid was to capture hostages so as to trade these for Palestinian prisoners.

If the UK had retaliated to the King David Hotel bombing in 1946 with 91 deaths by killing 91 x 61 = 5551 Jews, then there might not have been a State of Israel.

Israel is still holding 9,187 Palestinians in prison. https://www.btselem.org/statistics/detainees_and_prisoners The rationale for the Hamas raid was to capture hostages so as to trade these for Palestinian prisoners. If the UK had retaliated to the King David Hotel bombing in 1946 with 91 deaths by killing 91 x 61 = 5551 Jews, then there might not have been a State of Israel.

Upon rereading my last post, I would like to replace the word "Israelis" with "government of Israel", so as not to give the impression of hate speech. (It has been over three hours so I am unable to use the 'edit' function.)

Upon rereading my last post, I would like to replace the word "Israelis" with "government of Israel", so as not to give the impression of hate speech. (It has been over three hours so I am unable to use the 'edit' function.)

"government of Israel"

  • We will see in the upcoming elections how much the Israeli voters support or not the present Israeli government.
"government of Israel" * We will see in the upcoming elections how much the Israeli voters support or not the present Israeli government.