@aVague said [^](/forum/redirect/post/2lSs6oqR)
> But it's actually I couldn't do it, SF doesn't sees victory
Never mind SF--just use Nalimov. 68 Nh5 was indeed a win, as tpr has indicated (although it does take at minimum 58 moves!)--and 68 Nxh6 was only a draw.
Incidentally, Black should not have been moving his king around but should have pushed his pawns forward (and sacked them) as quickly as he could.
Oh, and one more thing: there are indeed mates with 2N vs K...only they can't be forced.
@MrPushwood said ^
But it's actually I couldn't do it, SF doesn't sees victory
Never mind SF--just use Nalimov. 68 Nh5 indeed was a win, as tpr has indicated--and 68 Nxh6 was only a draw.
Incidentally, Black should not have been moving his king around but should have pushed his pawns forward (and sacked them) as quickly as he could.
Oh, and one more thing: there are indeed mates with 2N vs K...but they can't be forced.
That how SF plays, there is no ways to force king to get cornored after 68 move really, SF is deep caclulative thing, it actually sees all, only way it doesn't sees something is due bugs mostl
@MrPushwood said [^](/forum/redirect/post/riOad1Ti)
> > But it's actually I couldn't do it, SF doesn't sees victory
>
> Never mind SF--just use Nalimov. 68 Nh5 indeed was a win, as tpr has indicated--and 68 Nxh6 was only a draw.
>
> Incidentally, Black should not have been moving his king around but should have pushed his pawns forward (and sacked them) as quickly as he could.
>
> Oh, and one more thing: there are indeed mates with 2N vs K...but they can't be forced.
That how SF plays, there is no ways to force king to get cornored after 68 move really, SF is deep caclulative thing, it actually sees all, only way it doesn't sees something is due bugs mostl
"no ways to force king to get cornored after 68 move"
* Remember the 50 moves rule is reset with each pawn move and each capture.
Here is how it can be done:
https://lichess.org/study/zJocIj74/gkb7VA9I
That's why I call them donkeys, they don't know how mate
@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/U7fH2xKy)
> "no ways to force king to get cornored after 68 move"
> * Remember the 50 moves rule is reset with each pawn move and each capture.
> Here is how it can be done:
> https://lichess.org/study/zJocIj74/gkb7VA9I
I see interesting, I don't get why SF doesn't sees it, maybe he had been stuck in space vision, and his depth doesn't cover that space trick
@Brutal-baby said [^](/forum/redirect/post/r3A9SpUO)
> That's why I call them donkeys, they don't know how mate
Yeah, but it's tricky sometimes, like this mosterous figures sitting in right place&right time
"his depth doesn't cover that space trick"
* Stockfish is bad at his, unless you set his calculation depth to 100 ply to see the distant checkmate.
You shouldn't have captured the g4 pawn. The steps to win are:
1. Use a Knight to block the g4 pawn; keep it on g3.
2. With your king and the other knight drag the adversary to any corner.
3. Hope that they blunder.
4. Lastly, plan your Ng3 to the sweet spot just in time, so that the opponent will be checkmated way before his promoted queen can act.
Remember that if we move the ranks of his g4 pawn and your g3 knight upwards, you will have more ease.
That means, block the pawn ASAP
"Use a Knight to block the g4 pawn"
* With a pawn on g4 and a knight on g3 you are below the Troitsky line.
You have to block pawn h6 with a knight on h5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_knights_endgame
@TheMagnusAura said [^](/forum/redirect/post/B4EhDbbp)
> You shouldn't have captured the g4 pawn. The steps to win are:
>
> 1. Use a Knight to block the g4 pawn; keep it on g3.
> 2. With your king and the other knight drag the adversary to any corner.
> 3. Hope that they blunder.
> 4. Lastly, plan your Ng3 to the sweet spot just in time, so that the opponent will be checkmated way before his promoted queen can act.
>
> Remember that if we move the ranks of his g4 pawn and your g3 knight upwards, you will have more ease.
> That means, block the pawn ASAP
Why gamble? there is certain win as we see