What else can you write on Scoresheets?

NM ThunderClap

Important thing is ,,, If you are in time trouble (Under 5 minutes on your clock( You need not keep score until the Time Control is reached ... Then you should catch - up on your time you may borrow your opponent's scoresheet . Sometimes RECONSTRUCTION of the position will be needed

dboing

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So time might get in the way of experimental feedback (being able to revise candidate move selections made whatever the outcome, at least where hesitation was felt, which i think is related to the notion of critical position, that is a question actually, that lingers in my non-otb chess, a distant cousin). (online correspondance chess on lichess).

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petri999

@dboing said in #10:

I am surprised that, in OTB tournaments (isn't OTB always about tournaments?) you can keep some of that thought process with the "K", but good to know, pleasantly surprised.
Unlikely that it is allowed. Person asking/answering probably resides in US. In Europe typically FIDE rules are observed in all tournament games - if local rule set exist it is usually translation with some very minor technical differences- and making notes is strictly forbidden.

12.4 The scoresheet shall be used only for recording the moves, the times of the clocks, the
offers of a draw, and matters relating to a claim and other relevant data.

@dboing said in #10: > I am surprised that, in OTB tournaments (isn't OTB always about tournaments?) you can keep some of that thought process with the "K", but good to know, pleasantly surprised. Unlikely that it is allowed. Person asking/answering probably resides in US. In Europe typically FIDE rules are observed in all tournament games - if local rule set exist it is usually translation with some very minor technical differences- and making notes is strictly forbidden. 12.4 The scoresheet shall be used only for recording the moves, the times of the clocks, the offers of a draw, and matters relating to a claim and other relevant data.

CM Sarg0n

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Moves, draw offers, time consumption. That’s all.

Like documentation of scientific experiments: just what you see, evaluation comes later.

PS: using 30s increment you have to write down infinitely, there is no 5min-no write rule.

Moves, draw offers, time consumption. That’s all. Like documentation of scientific experiments: just what you see, evaluation comes later. PS: using 30s increment you have to write down infinitely, there is no 5min-no write rule.

dboing

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@Sarg0n said in #15:

Moves, draw offers, time consumption. That’s all.

Like documentation of scientific experiments: just what you see, evaluation comes later.

PS: using 30s increment you have to write down infinitely, there is no 5min-no write rule.

Scientific experiments usually don't enforce onto themselves to ignore data. Whatever is of the sensible realm and can be considered an experimental factor with some explanation potential would likely be recorded. There is no reason to exclude the thought process that is in between currently recorded moves. The reasons for the otb tournament to not allow such things might be more about crowd management and physical constraints of any real time group activity.

But thanks for clarifying. hopes back to what they were. no data there to understand chess thinking development.
The experimental feedback would have been for own player to fully analysis how the game went. Not about database data. So really, OTB tournament are good to testing and sorting players, but to fully learn from games being played, there ought to be other places where to practice, and also be measured for evolution, while retaining as much as possible of the thinking data, for self-discovery beyond mere engine comparison, etc...

untapped data for individuals and population scientific approach to chess activity... I view experience or practice as the experiments. No one is forced to view it that way. But it is good to characterize where one can learn the most out of those experiments.

I guess that is tangential here, in this thread. I got curious with the op post.

@Sarg0n said in #15: > Moves, draw offers, time consumption. That’s all. > > Like documentation of scientific experiments: just what you see, evaluation comes later. > > PS: using 30s increment you have to write down infinitely, there is no 5min-no write rule. Scientific experiments usually don't enforce onto themselves to ignore data. Whatever is of the sensible realm and can be considered an experimental factor with some explanation potential would likely be recorded. There is no reason to exclude the thought process that is in between currently recorded moves. The reasons for the otb tournament to not allow such things might be more about crowd management and physical constraints of any real time group activity. But thanks for clarifying. hopes back to what they were. no data there to understand chess thinking development. The experimental feedback would have been for own player to fully analysis how the game went. Not about database data. So really, OTB tournament are good to testing and sorting players, but to fully learn from games being played, there ought to be other places where to practice, and also be measured for evolution, while retaining as much as possible of the thinking data, for self-discovery beyond mere engine comparison, etc... untapped data for individuals and population scientific approach to chess activity... I view experience or practice as the experiments. No one is forced to view it that way. But it is good to characterize where one can learn the most out of those experiments. I guess that is tangential here, in this thread. I got curious with the op post.

Akbar2thegreat

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You could ask the arbiter right there at tournament and clear your doubts.

#1 You could ask the arbiter right there at tournament and clear your doubts.

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