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ctcl 7

Dear classical chess friends,
CTCL had once more a fine crowd of 161 participants:
https://lichess.org/tournament/Wl9rVCxn

The second to last round was incredibly tight.
Todo Mundo Masters only won by a slightly better performance ahead of C3 – Classical Chess Club.
Échecs & amateurs followed very close behind in 3rd rank.
Congratulations for their great performances!

With this Todo Mundo has brilliantly defended the title 1 round in advance, congratulations!
It’s their 5th crown in 7 editions, amazing!

Rank/ Team/ Total 1st game/ Number of players / Avg Score (performance) / Point
=====================================================
1 Todo Mundo Masters / 222222 0 (12) / 7 / 1.71 (perf 2104) / 10
2 C3 – Classical Chess Club / 222222 0 (12) / 7 / 1.71 (perf 1959) / 9
3 Échecs & amateurs / 222220 (10) / 6 / 1.67 (perf 1848) / 8
4 Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 220121 20 (10) / 8 / 1.25 (perf 1921) / 7
5 Time Waterfall / 020221 220 (11) / 9 / 1.22 (perf 1971) / 6
6 Roman Classic Chess / 220 (4) / 3 / 0.67 (perf 1995) / 5
7 90m+30s / 022221 0000 0000 (9) / 14 / 0.64 (perf 1682) / 4
8 DarkOnClassical / 220000 000 (4) / 9 / 0.44 (perf 1546) / 3
9 Young Wisdom - Binh Duong Chess Team / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2540) / 2
10 covualogic / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2205) / 1

11 Шахматы для тех, кто их любит Chess is for those who love it / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2107)
12 Царское Село / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2077)
13 Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1990)
14 Chess hummer / 20 (2) / 2 / 0.33 (perf 1885)
15 ChessDojo / 200 (2) / 3 / 0.33 (perf 1794)
16 Indicheck _hu / 20 (2) /2 / 0.33 (perf 1582)
17 DarkOnTeams / 200000 00 (2) / 8 / 0.25 (perf 1517)
18 Elite Chess Players' Union / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1977)
19 Swiss Prize money / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1530)
20 rapid 8+0 / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1693)
21 Dark Pawn (Go For Win) / 000 (0) / 3 / 0 (perf 1667)
22 Sniper Jr. / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1585)
23 Торпедо Москва / 00 (0) / 2 / 0 (perf 1473)
24 THINK / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1469)
25 Fight for Win / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1458)
26 Club d'échecs de Hemmingford Chess Club / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1437)
27 СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 000 (0) / 3 / 0 (perf 1395)

Standings after Round 9 of 10:
==============================

  1. Todo Mundo Masters / 8+10+9+10+9+10+10+7+10 (83)
  2. 90m+30s / 10+8+7+4+8+5+9+10+4 (65)
  3. C3 – Classical Chess Club / 7+4+5+6+4+9+2+9+9 (55)
  4. Young Wisdom - Binh Duong / 5+7+10+8+5+7+7+2 (51)
  5. Échecs & amateurs / 5+3+7+10+8+8+8 (49)
  6. Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 9+6+6+4+8+7 (40)
  7. Торпедо Москва / 4+6+5+7+6+3 (31)
  8. ChessDojo / 3+2+8+9+4+5 (31)
  9. Fight for Win / 9+3 (12)
  10. СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 2+6+4 (12)
  11. Chess Jaalakam / 6+4+1 (11)
  12. Roman Classic Chess / 2+3+5 (10)
  13. DarkOnClassical 6+3 (9)
  14. Time Waterfall (6)
  15. Царское Село / 3+3 (6)
  16. Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung (5)
  17. Super Classical Champions (3)
  18. Elite Chess Players' Union (2)
  19. Sniper Jr (2)
  20. Chess warriors lead (2)
  21. rapid 8+0 / (2)
  22. covualogic (1)
  23. Todo Mundo (1)
  24. Indicheck _hu (1)
  25. Turm-Bauer (1)
  26. Harry Potters 07 Team (1)
  27. Chess hummer (1)
  28. Chess Champions (Never Give Up) (1)

CTCL 7 Final Round 10 May 17:
https://lichess.org/tournament/WBVvHdER

Dear classical chess friends, CTCL had once more a fine crowd of 161 participants: https://lichess.org/tournament/Wl9rVCxn The second to last round was incredibly tight. Todo Mundo Masters only won by a slightly better performance ahead of C3 – Classical Chess Club. Échecs & amateurs followed very close behind in 3rd rank. Congratulations for their great performances! With this Todo Mundo has brilliantly defended the title 1 round in advance, congratulations! It’s their 5th crown in 7 editions, amazing! Rank/ Team/ Total 1st game/ Number of players / Avg Score (performance) / Point ===================================================== 1 Todo Mundo Masters / 222222 0 (12) / 7 / 1.71 (perf 2104) / 10 2 C3 – Classical Chess Club / 222222 0 (12) / 7 / 1.71 (perf 1959) / 9 3 Échecs & amateurs / 222220 (10) / 6 / 1.67 (perf 1848) / 8 4 Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 220121 20 (10) / 8 / 1.25 (perf 1921) / 7 5 Time Waterfall / 020221 220 (11) / 9 / 1.22 (perf 1971) / 6 6 Roman Classic Chess / 220 (4) / 3 / 0.67 (perf 1995) / 5 7 90m+30s / 022221 0000 0000 (9) / 14 / 0.64 (perf 1682) / 4 8 DarkOnClassical / 220000 000 (4) / 9 / 0.44 (perf 1546) / 3 9 Young Wisdom - Binh Duong Chess Team / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2540) / 2 10 covualogic / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2205) / 1 11 Шахматы для тех, кто их любит Chess is for those who love it / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2107) 12 Царское Село / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2077) 13 Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1990) 14 Chess hummer / 20 (2) / 2 / 0.33 (perf 1885) 15 ChessDojo / 200 (2) / 3 / 0.33 (perf 1794) 16 Indicheck _hu / 20 (2) /2 / 0.33 (perf 1582) 17 DarkOnTeams / 200000 00 (2) / 8 / 0.25 (perf 1517) 18 Elite Chess Players' Union / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1977) 19 Swiss Prize money / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1530) 20 rapid 8+0 / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1693) 21 Dark Pawn (Go For Win) / 000 (0) / 3 / 0 (perf 1667) 22 Sniper Jr. / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1585) 23 Торпедо Москва / 00 (0) / 2 / 0 (perf 1473) 24 THINK / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1469) 25 Fight for Win / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1458) 26 Club d'échecs de Hemmingford Chess Club / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1437) 27 СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 000 (0) / 3 / 0 (perf 1395) Standings after Round 9 of 10: ============================== 1. Todo Mundo Masters / 8+10+9+10+9+10+10+7+10 (83) 2. 90m+30s / 10+8+7+4+8+5+9+10+4 (65) 3. C3 – Classical Chess Club / 7+4+5+6+4+9+2+9+9 (55) 4. Young Wisdom - Binh Duong / 5+7+10+8+5+7+7+2 (51) 5. Échecs & amateurs / 5+3+7+10+8+8+8 (49) 6. Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 9+6+6+4+8+7 (40) 7. Торпедо Москва / 4+6+5+7+6+3 (31) 7. ChessDojo / 3+2+8+9+4+5 (31) 9. Fight for Win / 9+3 (12) 9. СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 2+6+4 (12) 11. Chess Jaalakam / 6+4+1 (11) 12. Roman Classic Chess / 2+3+5 (10) 13. DarkOnClassical 6+3 (9) 14. Time Waterfall (6) 14. Царское Село / 3+3 (6) 16. Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung (5) 17. Super Classical Champions (3) 18. Elite Chess Players' Union (2) 18. Sniper Jr (2) 18. Chess warriors lead (2) 18. rapid 8+0 / (2) 22. covualogic (1) 22. Todo Mundo (1) 22. Indicheck _hu (1) 22. Turm-Bauer (1) 22. Harry Potters 07 Team (1) 22. Chess hummer (1) 22. Chess Champions (Never Give Up) (1) CTCL 7 Final Round 10 May 17: https://lichess.org/tournament/WBVvHdER

Dear CCL members,
CTCL Season 7 finished in great style yesterday:
https://lichess.org/tournament/WBVvHdER

It was the toughest round so far.
Todo Mundo Masters, 90m+30s and Chessmasterpro finished all with the same average!!
The performance had to decide about the ranks.

Todo Mundo had already brilliantly defended their title in the previous round.
Runner up is 90m+30s
C3 – Classical Chess Club finished in 3rd place after the 10 rounds of the championship.
Congratulations!

We’d like to thank all participants and the team leader for having made it such a marvelous event.

The new season will start in 3 weeks on June 7.
We’re looking very much forward to another exciting championship.

Final Round 10:
Rank/ Team/ Total 1st game/ Number of players / Avg Score (performance) / Point
=====================================================
1 Todo Mundo Masters / 22222 (10) / 5 / 1.67 (perf 2139) / 10
2 90m+30s / 222222 2221 10" (20) / 12 / 1.67 (perf 1952) / 9
3 Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 22222 (10) / 5 / 1.67 (perf 1895) / 8
4 C3 – Classical Chess Club / 222220 0000 (10) / 10 / 1 (perf 1939) / 7
5 Fight for Win / 22200 (6) / 5 / 1 (perf 1850) / 6
6 Roman Classic Chess / 20220 (6) / 5 / 1 (perf 1767) / 5
7 Dark Pawn (Go For Win) / 2210 (5) / 4 / 0.83 (perf 1870) / 4
8 ChessDojo / 022200 00 (6) / 8 / 0.75 (perf 1590) / 3
9 Échecs & amateurs / 222002 0000 0 (8) / 11 / 0.73 (perf 1720) / 2
10 Chess Champions (Never Give Up) / 120 (3) / 3 / 0.5 (perf 1623) / 1

11 Торпедо Москва / 210 (3) / 3 / 0.5 (perf 1567)
12 Time Waterfall / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2041)
13 GMDingLiren / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1830)
14 DarkOnClassical / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1732)
15 DarkOnTeams / 200000 0 (2) / 7 / 0.28 (perf 1523)
16 Lance5500 Chess Coach / 100 (1) / 3 / 0.17 (perf 1799)
17 Elite Chess Players' Union / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1713)
18 Todo Mundo / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1800)
19 Chess hummer / 00 (0) / 2 / 0 (perf 1591)
20 Club Virsan / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1462)
21 Царское Село / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1456)
22 TakticproChess / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1310)

Final Standings (Round 1-10):
==============================

  1. Todo Mundo Masters / 8+10+9+10+9+10+10+7+10+10 (93)
  2. 90m+30s / 10+8+7+4+8+5+9+10+4+9 (74)
  3. C3 – Classical Chess Club / 7+4+5+6+4+9+2+9+9+7 (62)
  4. Young Wisdom - Binh Duong / 5+7+10+8+5+7+7+2 (51)
  5. Échecs & amateurs / 5+3+7+10+8+8+8+2 (51)
  6. Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 9+6+6+4+8+7+8 (48)
  7. ChessDojo / 3+2+8+9+4+5+3 (34)
  8. Торпедо Москва / 4+6+5+7+6+3 (31)
  9. Fight for Win / 9+3+6 (18)
  10. Roman Classic Chess / 2+3+5+5 (15)
  11. СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 2+6+4 (12)
  12. Chess Jaalakam / 6+4+1 (11)
  13. DarkOnClassical 6+3 (9)
  14. Time Waterfall (6)
  15. Царское Село / 3+3 (6)
  16. Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung (5)
  17. Dark Pawn (Go For Win) (4)
  18. Super Classical Champions (3)
  19. Chess Champions (Never Give Up) 1+1 (2)
  20. Elite Chess Players' Union (2)
  21. Sniper Jr (2)
  22. Chess warriors lead (2)
  23. rapid 8+0 / (2)
  24. covualogic (1)
  25. Todo Mundo (1)
  26. Indicheck _hu (1)
  27. Turm-Bauer (1)
  28. Harry Potters 07 Team (1)
  29. Chess hummer (1)
Dear CCL members, CTCL Season 7 finished in great style yesterday: https://lichess.org/tournament/WBVvHdER It was the toughest round so far. Todo Mundo Masters, 90m+30s and Chessmasterpro finished all with the same average!! The performance had to decide about the ranks. Todo Mundo had already brilliantly defended their title in the previous round. Runner up is 90m+30s C3 – Classical Chess Club finished in 3rd place after the 10 rounds of the championship. Congratulations! We’d like to thank all participants and the team leader for having made it such a marvelous event. The new season will start in 3 weeks on June 7. We’re looking very much forward to another exciting championship. Final Round 10: Rank/ Team/ Total 1st game/ Number of players / Avg Score (performance) / Point ===================================================== 1 Todo Mundo Masters / 22222 (10) / 5 / 1.67 (perf 2139) / 10 2 90m+30s / 222222 2221 10" (20) / 12 / 1.67 (perf 1952) / 9 3 Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 22222 (10) / 5 / 1.67 (perf 1895) / 8 4 C3 – Classical Chess Club / 222220 0000 (10) / 10 / 1 (perf 1939) / 7 5 Fight for Win / 22200 (6) / 5 / 1 (perf 1850) / 6 6 Roman Classic Chess / 20220 (6) / 5 / 1 (perf 1767) / 5 7 Dark Pawn (Go For Win) / 2210 (5) / 4 / 0.83 (perf 1870) / 4 8 ChessDojo / 022200 00 (6) / 8 / 0.75 (perf 1590) / 3 9 Échecs & amateurs / 222002 0000 0 (8) / 11 / 0.73 (perf 1720) / 2 10 Chess Champions (Never Give Up) / 120 (3) / 3 / 0.5 (perf 1623) / 1 11 Торпедо Москва / 210 (3) / 3 / 0.5 (perf 1567) 12 Time Waterfall / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 2041) 13 GMDingLiren / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1830) 14 DarkOnClassical / 2 (2) / 1 / 0.33 (perf 1732) 15 DarkOnTeams / 200000 0 (2) / 7 / 0.28 (perf 1523) 16 Lance5500 Chess Coach / 100 (1) / 3 / 0.17 (perf 1799) 17 Elite Chess Players' Union / 1 (1) / 1 / 0.17 (perf 1713) 18 Todo Mundo / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1800) 19 Chess hummer / 00 (0) / 2 / 0 (perf 1591) 20 Club Virsan / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1462) 21 Царское Село / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1456) 22 TakticproChess / 0 (0) / 1 / 0 (perf 1310) Final Standings (Round 1-10): ============================== 1. Todo Mundo Masters / 8+10+9+10+9+10+10+7+10+10 (93) 2. 90m+30s / 10+8+7+4+8+5+9+10+4+9 (74) 3. C3 – Classical Chess Club / 7+4+5+6+4+9+2+9+9+7 (62) 4. Young Wisdom - Binh Duong / 5+7+10+8+5+7+7+2 (51) 4. Échecs & amateurs / 5+3+7+10+8+8+8+2 (51) 6. Chessmasterpro-Tatarstan-Elabuga / 9+6+6+4+8+7+8 (48) 7. ChessDojo / 3+2+8+9+4+5+3 (34) 8. Торпедо Москва / 4+6+5+7+6+3 (31) 9. Fight for Win / 9+3+6 (18) 10. Roman Classic Chess / 2+3+5+5 (15) 11. СЕРГИЕВ ПОСАД / 2+6+4 (12) 12. Chess Jaalakam / 6+4+1 (11) 13. DarkOnClassical 6+3 (9) 14. Time Waterfall (6) 14. Царское Село / 3+3 (6) 16. Rochade Europa - Schachzeitung (5) 17. Dark Pawn (Go For Win) (4) 18. Super Classical Champions (3) 19. Chess Champions (Never Give Up) 1+1 (2) 19. Elite Chess Players' Union (2) 19. Sniper Jr (2) 19. Chess warriors lead (2) 19. rapid 8+0 / (2) 24. covualogic (1) 24. Todo Mundo (1) 24. Indicheck _hu (1) 24. Turm-Bauer (1) 24. Harry Potters 07 Team (1) 24. Chess hummer (1)

Hi - I just want to say that the scoring system can be a disincentive to play. Example: in round 10, I was the final player to play for my team (90+30). So, before I played, the team average score was 19/11 = 1.73, 1st place. In my game, I, with 1818 rating and the Black pieces, held a draw against a 2200 rated player who says they are a chess coach with more than 30 years experience.

Rather than this result and extra point counting for something positive for the team, it did the opposite: it reduced the team average from 1.73 to 1.67 and put the team from 1st to 2nd place. Even the extra point that I scored counted for nothing. So, it would have been better for the team had I not played.

To illustrate the point further, if a team has 6 players who all score 2 points by winning their first game, then it is impossible for the following players to improve the team score. All they will do is either keep it the same or reduce it. So, why should they play?

I have read the reason for doing it the way you are, so as to try and level the playing field between large and small teams, and I appreciate the difficulty in coming up with an ideal scoring system, but I just wanted to highlight this point of view: that there is a disincentive to play at times.

Perhaps, in the event of a tie in average score, it would be fairer to first use total points scored as the first tiebreaker, and then performance rating.

Hi - I just want to say that the scoring system can be a disincentive to play. Example: in round 10, I was the final player to play for my team (90+30). So, before I played, the team average score was 19/11 = 1.73, 1st place. In my game, I, with 1818 rating and the Black pieces, held a draw against a 2200 rated player who says they are a chess coach with more than 30 years experience. Rather than this result and extra point counting for something positive for the team, it did the opposite: it reduced the team average from 1.73 to 1.67 and put the team from 1st to 2nd place. Even the extra point that I scored counted for nothing. So, it would have been better for the team had I not played. To illustrate the point further, if a team has 6 players who all score 2 points by winning their first game, then it is impossible for the following players to improve the team score. All they will do is either keep it the same or reduce it. So, why should they play? I have read the reason for doing it the way you are, so as to try and level the playing field between large and small teams, and I appreciate the difficulty in coming up with an ideal scoring system, but I just wanted to highlight this point of view: that there is a disincentive to play at times. Perhaps, in the event of a tie in average score, it would be fairer to first use total points scored as the first tiebreaker, and then performance rating.

@Me2nd
It wouldn’t be fairer since then bigger teams would have a huge advantage.
Every win more will improve the average except when the team has already 12 points with 6 players all having won.
This happened only once in 10 rounds.
You could have been paired with a lower rated player and you could have won the game as well.
It’s the job of the team leader to motivate their members.
So every seriously competing team should be able to have at least 6 players.
That’s why we believe that it is the fairest scoring system possible.
You didn’t know that your team was leading before you started your game.
The average is only calculated after the arena has finished.

@Me2nd It wouldn’t be fairer since then bigger teams would have a huge advantage. Every win more will improve the average except when the team has already 12 points with 6 players all having won. This happened only once in 10 rounds. You could have been paired with a lower rated player and you could have won the game as well. It’s the job of the team leader to motivate their members. So every seriously competing team should be able to have at least 6 players. That’s why we believe that it is the fairest scoring system possible. You didn’t know that your team was leading before you started your game. The average is only calculated after the arena has finished.

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