London System Qb6

I have had trouble with the London System although it is my favorite opening when they go like a d5, c5, Nc6, Qb6 setup. I end up losing pawns left and right and then it crashes downhill. Please help! Thanks a bunch and I love this team!!!! :) :)

@MonsterMayhem Hi! I'm a bit confused as to what you mean. Do you like to play the London System with white or against it with black? What is your question?

I play it as my White opening. Thanks! To clarify, I mean that he sometimes gets into a position like the French where his Queen is on b6, and I can't avoid the b2 pawn being lost. Is there a way to solve this? Thanks!

This is the 100th forum post! :) @MonsterMayhem Ok, I understand. Can you please provide some typical lines black might play? Also what move order for the London System do you play? If you play an early Nf3, like on move 2, 3 or maybe even 4, you might run into some problems which I can explain if you let me in on some example lines you're having trouble with.

@MonsterMayhem Ok- I've taken a look at some of your games and it looks like you are playing the correct move order with d4, Bf4 and e3.

Ok so
1st move order on how to meet Qb6:
1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.c3 Qb6

Black attacks b2, so you can simply meet this move with 5.Qb3, facing off queens. If black plays Qxb3, you can recapture with the a-pawn and you have a number of benefits.
If black plays 5...c4, you simply drop your queen back to c2, and black has released the central tension for nothing and will have to face the upcoming b3 and e4 pawn breaks by white. (Kindly note that after 6.Qc2, the 6...Bf5 trick doesn't work in this case because black hasn't put the knight on c6 yet- so you can play 7.Qxf5 Qxb2 8.Qc8#)
After 6.Qc2, if black develops the knight 6...Nc6, black is now threatening ...Bf5, so as white you can play 7.Nd2 (preventing Bf5 again because you give breathing room to your rook on a1) and you are going to play b3 on the next move, starting to undermine black's fixed center pawns.
If black doesn't play 5...Qxb3 or 5...c4, you can continue with your normal London moves like Nd2, Ngf3, Be2/d3, etc. Just don't voluntarily play Qxb6 because then you give black the open a-file.

2nd move order:
1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 c5 3.e3 Nc6 4.c3 Qb6

Again you meet Qb6 with
5.Qb3 and you have the same ideas as in the first move order. Only difference now is that black hasn't put the knight on f6 yet so there's one other thing: 5...c4 6.Qc2 Bf5 This looks good for black, but it isn't because we have a good variation 7.Qxf5 Qxb2 8.Qxd5 Qxa1 9.Qb5 and after a bunch of moves white will eventually trap black's queen in the corner- make sure you analyze to your need

3rd move order:
1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 c5 3.e3 Qb6

Ok here it looks like white's having difficulties but there is a nice move 4.Nc3! Gambiting the b2 pawn and developing a piece-
If 4...Qxb2 5.Nxd5 This is lost for black
If 4...Nf6 or 4...e6, after 5.Nb5 Na6 6.a4, black doesn't have a very good position (you can continue with normal moves c3 and Nf3)

Hope this helped!

OMG, this is amazing thanks so so much! :)

@MonsterMayhem No problem!