>> Is it possible most people feel this way about long games---they don't actually have fun playing them, but feel like they are obligated to do for some reason (e.g. for rating, titles, improvement, experience, whatever)?
@mkubecek said in #29:
> Like in many other areas, I'm apparently not "most people". If I had to choose between one 90+30 game and a 5-round 14+5 tournament in our club, I would almost always take the 90+30 game. Rapid doesn't let me think enough (15+10 or 20+5 are still playable but sadly most tournaments rather use something like 10+5, 15+3 or 15+2), most games are decided by a stupid blunder or running out of time and, worst of all, I cannot analyze the games later.
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> Unfortunately the "society ADHD" affects most areas of our lives and chess is no exception which is where the popularity of blitz (or even bullet) or at least rapid and dislike for classical time controls comes from. But for me, one of the reasons why I started playing chess again is that I'm worried about this and having to focus on a chess game for few hours and dismissing all the usual distractions is a great way to fight it.
Ironically, you start off by saying you're not "most people", but then the one reason you share for actually playing slow chess isn't fun! It's some abstract long-term goal (fighting "society ADHD").
@Graque said in #31:
> Ironically, you start off by saying you're not "most people", but then the one reason you share for actually playing slow chess isn't fun! It's some abstract long-term goal (fighting "society ADHD").
When you find something fun (or don't), it's not based on a reason, it's an emotional response. All I can say about it is that I enjoy playing classical control games more than rapid (blitz I don't enjoy at all).
@redAndrea said in #3:
> the vast majority do like the frustration and desperation of a 5 hour match ending in a loss and the punch of adrenaline and dopamine from a win.
Do they? If I were to play a 5 hour match, even if I win, I'll probably only get enough adrenaline to not pass out, let alone dopamine, but a loss would be just as if not more frustrating.
If you wanna play a long game, play correspondence (/hj longer games, so a bit higher stakes i guess, you can play a single game for multiple weeks, and all of this while being less stressed and playing when it's comfortable for you)
@redAndrea said in #3:
> "The healthiest option I could find was a Chipotle, located about 500 yards from the tournament hotel as the bird flies, but a 15 minute drive because of how New Jersey roads work."
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> You really take the car for 450m?!? And talking about healthy habits?
>
To be fair to OP, if you know how crazy urban planning is in the US, they almost certainly mean that it wasn't possible to walk to the Chipotle safely because it would mean having to walk alongside a freeway or something like that.
@gymnosophist said in #34:
> > "The healthiest option I could find was a Chipotle, located about 500 yards from the tournament hotel as the bird flies, but a 15 minute drive because of how New Jersey roads work."
> >
> > You really take the car for 450m?!? And talking about healthy habits?
> >
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> To be fair to OP, if you know how crazy urban planning is in the US, they almost certainly mean that it wasn't possible to walk to the Chipotle safely because it would mean having to walk alongside a freeway or something like that.
@running-shapes said in #33:
> > the vast majority do like the frustration and desperation of a 5 hour match ending in a loss and the punch of adrenaline and dopamine from a win.
>
> Do they? If I were to play a 5 hour match, even if I win, I'll probably only get enough adrenaline to not pass out, let alone dopamine, but a loss would be just as if not more frustrating.
>
> If you wanna play a long game, play correspondence (/hj longer games, so a bit higher stakes i guess, you can play a single game for multiple weeks, and all of this while being less stressed and playing when it's comfortable for you)
@mkubecek said in #32:
> > Ironically, you start off by saying you're not "most people", but then the one reason you share for actually playing slow chess isn't fun! It's some abstract long-term goal (fighting "society ADHD").
> When you find something fun (or don't), it's not based on a reason, it's an emotional response. All I can say about it is that I enjoy playing classical control games more than rapid (blitz I don't enjoy at all).
@Graque said in #31:
> >> Is it possible most people feel this way about long games---they don't actually have fun playing them, but feel like they are obligated to do for some reason (e.g. for rating, titles, improvement, experience, whatever)?
>
> @mkubecek said in #29:
> > Like in many other areas, I'm apparently not "most people". If I had to choose between one 90+30 game and a 5-round 14+5 tournament in our club, I would almost always take the 90+30 game. Rapid doesn't let me think enough (15+10 or 20+5 are still playable but sadly most tournaments rather use something like 10+5, 15+3 or 15+2), most games are decided by a stupid blunder or running out of time and, worst of all, I cannot analyze the games later.
> >
> > Unfortunately the "society ADHD" affects most areas of our lives and chess is no exception which is where the popularity of blitz (or even bullet) or at least rapid and dislike for classical time controls comes from. But for me, one of the reasons why I started playing chess again is that I'm worried about this and having to focus on a chess game for few hours and dismissing all the usual distractions is a great way to fight it.
>
> Ironically, you start off by saying you're not "most people", but then the one reason you share for actually playing slow chess isn't fun! It's some abstract long-term goal (fighting "society ADHD").
Хорошо но.... что такое tournaments