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pirc defence is trash ?!?!

oh nevermind, 10. Bxe7 is brutal

oh nevermind, 10. Bxe7 is brutal

@MasteroftheArts

After 5...dxe5, SF evaluates the position as +0.3.

@MasteroftheArts After 5...dxe5, SF evaluates the position as +0.3.

@derkleineJo said ^

@Sanjay-kurama Pirc or the modern defence are no "beginner's openings" because in hypermodern openings you start relatively passively, throw all the usual opening rules out the window and first have to establish balance.

So it's no wonder that “inexperienced” players have great difficulty here because they are essentially starting with a penalty.

However, to describe the opening as "trash" is, in my opinion, somewhat presumptuous. Feel free to look at my game history to see how you can play such an opening in a more "sensible" way.

play with me I need to experience the game against a pirc player if you like we can play :)

@derkleineJo said [^](/forum/redirect/post/LUzlL9bI) > @Sanjay-kurama Pirc or the modern defence are no "beginner's openings" because in hypermodern openings you start relatively passively, throw all the usual opening rules out the window and first have to establish balance. > > So it's no wonder that “inexperienced” players have great difficulty here because they are essentially starting with a penalty. > > However, to describe the opening as "trash" is, in my opinion, somewhat presumptuous. Feel free to look at my game history to see how you can play such an opening in a more "sensible" way. play with me I need to experience the game against a pirc player if you like we can play :)

@MrPushwood said ^

Black should take 8...Bxe5, but even then it is not easy. Example:

that's how I believe this is a trash opening !!

Still, the Pirc/Modern seemed to work out okay for me in our game. :)

I didn't considered our game bro bcuz you didn't follow the script :( anyways gg :)

@MrPushwood said [^](/forum/redirect/post/geX3HCxe) > > > Black should take 8...Bxe5, but even then it is not easy. Example: > > > > that's how I believe this is a trash opening !! > > Still, the Pirc/Modern seemed to work out okay for me in our game. :) I didn't considered our game bro bcuz you didn't follow the script :( anyways gg :)

Other players here, please chill. It's just an opening trap! So you should just ignore the sounding vessel (the post was sarcastic)

Other players here, please chill. It's just an opening trap! So you should just ignore the sounding vessel (the post was sarcastic)

The Pirc -- a defense for those a bit too energetic to play the Hippopotamus (the opening of ultimate relaxation).

The Pirc -- a defense for those a bit too energetic to play the Hippopotamus (the opening of ultimate relaxation).

@Sanjay-kurama MagnusAura roasted you and you didn't even notice that XD

@Sanjay-kurama MagnusAura roasted you and you didn't even notice that XD

This line's tricky, I had it quite some times otb.

https://lichess.org/wzKkavxB

6...Rxd1? is hardly playable at all.

https://lichess.org/aDDaXJuc

This line's tricky, I had it quite some times otb. https://lichess.org/wzKkavxB 6...Rxd1? is hardly playable at all. https://lichess.org/aDDaXJuc

Trashing opponents does not make the Pirc Defense trash.

https://lichess.org/ZLh8WAQi#23

Trashing opponents does not make the Pirc Defense trash. https://lichess.org/ZLh8WAQi#23

@tpr said ^

5...Nfd7 may be better, example:

It is... Indeed, it virtually equalizes for black.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/56LObN5n) > 5...Nfd7 may be better, example: It is... Indeed, it virtually equalizes for black.