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Stockfish doesn't understand what I do

@Gonzalo2568 said in #10:

Stockfish has a lot of mistakes
Shouldn't Understamate Him at all, he can built very Powerful Strucktures, based on very Deep Combintation View, it's really hard to catch up for him, His moves , especially SF 10 or more with enought memory are looking quite simple and Natural, but in fact it's way to hard to repeat them in Right Order and find them, You can only try Sensing it with some Special Feels of Logic. Sense , hidden in His moves is Revealed later , when Position develops, and it's very deep

@Gonzalo2568 said in #10: > Stockfish has a lot of mistakes Shouldn't Understamate Him at all, he can built very Powerful Strucktures, based on very Deep Combintation View, it's really hard to catch up for him, His moves , especially SF 10 or more with enought memory are looking quite simple and Natural, but in fact it's way to hard to repeat them in Right Order and find them, You can only try Sensing it with some Special Feels of Logic. Sense , hidden in His moves is Revealed later , when Position develops, and it's very deep

I just repeated the game where you can beat it with 17 moves and sacrificing 4 pieces and it makes the same mistakes again

https://lichess.org/pz6VMGxT/white

I just repeated the game where you can beat it with 17 moves and sacrificing 4 pieces and it makes the same mistakes again https://lichess.org/pz6VMGxT/white

@Gonzalo2568 said in #12:

I just repeated the game where you can beat it with 17 moves and sacrificing 4 pieces and it makes the same mistakes again
then must be a Bug or whatever. someday SF version and Works will be clean enought , not to allowing that all do happen, but now need just a good technilogy for that all to fix

@Gonzalo2568 said in #12: > I just repeated the game where you can beat it with 17 moves and sacrificing 4 pieces and it makes the same mistakes again then must be a Bug or whatever. someday SF version and Works will be clean enought , not to allowing that all do happen, but now need just a good technilogy for that all to fix
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@aVague said in #13:

then must be a Bug or whatever. someday SF version and Works will be clean enought , not to allowing that all do happen, but now need just a good technilogy for that all to fix

It's not really a bug, just that Stockfish is weakened on Lichess. Even level 8 probably searches at a low depth, so of course @Gonzalo2568's locally running Stockfish (not @Gonzalo2568 himself of course--perish the thought) is able to beat it.

@aVague said in #13: > then must be a Bug or whatever. someday SF version and Works will be clean enought , not to allowing that all do happen, but now need just a good technilogy for that all to fix It's not really a bug, just that Stockfish is weakened on Lichess. Even level 8 probably searches at a low depth, so of course @Gonzalo2568's locally running Stockfish (not @Gonzalo2568 himself of course--perish the thought) is able to beat it.

@AsDaGo said in #15:

It's not really a bug, just that Stockfish is weakened on Lichess. Even level 8 probably searches at a low depth, so of course @Gonzalo2568's locally running Stockfish (not @Gonzalo2568 himself of course--perish the thought) is able to beat it.
I am not using an engine to play this game, here you can find another way to beat it.

https://lichess.org/J2sCxvr6qCPL

@AsDaGo said in #15: > It's not really a bug, just that Stockfish is weakened on Lichess. Even level 8 probably searches at a low depth, so of course @Gonzalo2568's locally running Stockfish (not @Gonzalo2568 himself of course--perish the thought) is able to beat it. I am not using an engine to play this game, here you can find another way to beat it. https://lichess.org/J2sCxvr6qCPL

@aVague said in #9:

Thx for review. I think last Advantage ( about -2) + rook pressure+ extra pawn was enought to make it
but I saw Analysis , it seems like Draw sadly for My Skill( I hoped there was a Win
The result is a win, but you need more time. Here you have the PGN:

  1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. Nxd6+ Qxd6 8. c3 O-O 9. O-O e5 10. dxe5 Nxe5 11. Nxe5 Qxe5 12. Re1 Qh5 13. Be2 Qg6 14. Bf4 Bh3 15. Bg3 Be6 16. Bxc7 Ne4 17. Bd3 Bd5 18. f3 Nxc3 19. Bxg6 Nxd1 20. Bxh7+ Kxh7 21. Raxd1 Rfc8 22. Rxd5 Rxc7 23. Rh5+ Kg6 24. Rb5 Rd8 25. h4 a6 26. h5+ Kh6 27. Ra5 Rc2 28. g4 Rdd2 29. Rb1 Rg2+ 30. Kh1 Rh2+ 31. Kg1 Rcg2+ 32. Kf1 Rf2+ 33. Kg1 Rfg2+ 34. Kf1 Rf2+ 35. Kg1 Rhg2+ 36. Kh1 Rg3 37. Rd1 Rfxf3 38. Rd8 Kh7 39. Rd4 Rf1+ 40. Kh2 Rfg1 41. Rb4 R1g2+ 42. Kh1 Rg1+ 43. Kh2 R1g2+ 44. Kh1 Rxg4 45. Rb6 Rc2 46. Rxb7 Rf2 47. b3 Kh6 48. Rb6+ f6 49. Re6 Rh4+ 50. Kg1 Rhh2 51. Re8 Rhg2+ 52. Kh1 Rh2+ 53. Kg1 Kh7 54. Rxa6 Rfg2+ 55. Kf1 Rb2 56. Kg1 Rbg2+ 57. Kf1 Rb2 58. Kg1 Rxh5 59. Re1 Rg5+ 60. Kh1 Rh5+ 61. Kg1 Rhh2 62. Rc1 Rhg2+ 63. Kh1 Rgf2 64. Ra3 g5 65. Ra8 Kg6 66. a4 Rxb3 67. a5 Ra3 68. a6 Rfa2 69. Rc6 Rh3+ 70. Kg1 Re3 71. Rc1 Rg3+ 72. Kh1 Rga3 73. a7 Rxa7 74. Rg8+ Kh7 75. Rcc8 R7a3 76. Rgf8 Kg6 77. Kg1 Rg3+ 78. Kh1 Rh3+ 79. Kg1 Rg3+ 80. Kf1 Rf3+ 81. Kg1 Rf4 82. Rc3 Kh5 83. Rh8+ Kg4 84. Rhh3 Rfa4 85. Rhg3+ Kh5 86. Rh3+ Kg6 87. Rhe3 f5 88. Red3 f4 89. Rd1 Kf5 90. Rd5+ Kg4 91. Rcd3 f3 92. Rd2 Rxd2 93. Rd3 Ra1#
@aVague said in #9: > Thx for review. I think last Advantage ( about -2) + rook pressure+ extra pawn was enought to make it > but I saw Analysis , it seems like Draw sadly for My Skill( I hoped there was a Win The result is a win, but you need more time. Here you have the PGN: 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. Nxd6+ Qxd6 8. c3 O-O 9. O-O e5 10. dxe5 Nxe5 11. Nxe5 Qxe5 12. Re1 Qh5 13. Be2 Qg6 14. Bf4 Bh3 15. Bg3 Be6 16. Bxc7 Ne4 17. Bd3 Bd5 18. f3 Nxc3 19. Bxg6 Nxd1 20. Bxh7+ Kxh7 21. Raxd1 Rfc8 22. Rxd5 Rxc7 23. Rh5+ Kg6 24. Rb5 Rd8 25. h4 a6 26. h5+ Kh6 27. Ra5 Rc2 28. g4 Rdd2 29. Rb1 Rg2+ 30. Kh1 Rh2+ 31. Kg1 Rcg2+ 32. Kf1 Rf2+ 33. Kg1 Rfg2+ 34. Kf1 Rf2+ 35. Kg1 Rhg2+ 36. Kh1 Rg3 37. Rd1 Rfxf3 38. Rd8 Kh7 39. Rd4 Rf1+ 40. Kh2 Rfg1 41. Rb4 R1g2+ 42. Kh1 Rg1+ 43. Kh2 R1g2+ 44. Kh1 Rxg4 45. Rb6 Rc2 46. Rxb7 Rf2 47. b3 Kh6 48. Rb6+ f6 49. Re6 Rh4+ 50. Kg1 Rhh2 51. Re8 Rhg2+ 52. Kh1 Rh2+ 53. Kg1 Kh7 54. Rxa6 Rfg2+ 55. Kf1 Rb2 56. Kg1 Rbg2+ 57. Kf1 Rb2 58. Kg1 Rxh5 59. Re1 Rg5+ 60. Kh1 Rh5+ 61. Kg1 Rhh2 62. Rc1 Rhg2+ 63. Kh1 Rgf2 64. Ra3 g5 65. Ra8 Kg6 66. a4 Rxb3 67. a5 Ra3 68. a6 Rfa2 69. Rc6 Rh3+ 70. Kg1 Re3 71. Rc1 Rg3+ 72. Kh1 Rga3 73. a7 Rxa7 74. Rg8+ Kh7 75. Rcc8 R7a3 76. Rgf8 Kg6 77. Kg1 Rg3+ 78. Kh1 Rh3+ 79. Kg1 Rg3+ 80. Kf1 Rf3+ 81. Kg1 Rf4 82. Rc3 Kh5 83. Rh8+ Kg4 84. Rhh3 Rfa4 85. Rhg3+ Kh5 86. Rh3+ Kg6 87. Rhe3 f5 88. Red3 f4 89. Rd1 Kf5 90. Rd5+ Kg4 91. Rcd3 f3 92. Rd2 Rxd2 93. Rd3 Ra1#

@Gonzalo2568 said in #16:

I am not using an engine to play this game, here you can find another way to beat it.

Ok, let's say you're telling the truth and found a certain line where Stockfish always plays the same moves and loses. I still don't get what's so great about that.

If you played real Stockfish (i.e., full strength on decent (as in not a potato) hardware), there's no way you'd ever be able to beat it on your own. No human can.

@Gonzalo2568 said in #16: > I am not using an engine to play this game, here you can find another way to beat it. Ok, let's say you're telling the truth and found a certain line where Stockfish always plays the same moves and loses. I still don't get what's so great about that. If you played real Stockfish (i.e., full strength on decent (as in not a potato) hardware), there's no way you'd ever be able to beat it on your own. No human can.

@Gonzalo2568 said in #17:

The result is a win, but you need more time. Here you have the PGN:

  1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. Nxd6+ Qxd6 8. c3 O-O 9. O-O e5 10. dxe5 Nxe5 11. Nxe5 Qxe5 12. Re1 Qh5 13. Be2 Qg6 14. Bf4 Bh3 15. Bg3 Be6 16. Bxc7 Ne4 17. Bd3 Bd5 18. f3 Nxc3 19. Bxg6 Nxd1 20. Bxh7+ Kxh7 21. Raxd1 Rfc8 22. Rxd5 Rxc7 23. Rh5+ Kg6 24. Rb5 Rd8 25. h4 a6 26. h5+ Kh6 27. Ra5 Rc2 28. g4 Rdd2 29. Rb1 Rg2+ 30. Kh1 Rh2+ 31. Kg1 Rcg2+ 32. Kf1 Rf2+ 33. Kg1 Rfg2+ 34. Kf1 Rf2+ 35. Kg1 Rhg2+ 36. Kh1 Rg3 37. Rd1 Rfxf3 38. Rd8 Kh7 39. Rd4 Rf1+ 40. Kh2 Rfg1 41. Rb4 R1g2+ 42. Kh1 Rg1+ 43. Kh2 R1g2+ 44. Kh1 Rxg4 45. Rb6 Rc2 46. Rxb7 Rf2 47. b3 Kh6 48. Rb6+ f6 49. Re6 Rh4+ 50. Kg1 Rhh2 51. Re8 Rhg2+ 52. Kh1 Rh2+ 53. Kg1 Kh7 54. Rxa6 Rfg2+ 55. Kf1 Rb2 56. Kg1 Rbg2+ 57. Kf1 Rb2 58. Kg1 Rxh5 59. Re1 Rg5+ 60. Kh1 Rh5+ 61. Kg1 Rhh2 62. Rc1 Rhg2+ 63. Kh1 Rgf2 64. Ra3 g5 65. Ra8 Kg6 66. a4 Rxb3 67. a5 Ra3 68. a6 Rfa2 69. Rc6 Rh3+ 70. Kg1 Re3 71. Rc1 Rg3+ 72. Kh1 Rga3 73. a7 Rxa7 74. Rg8+ Kh7 75. Rcc8 R7a3 76. Rgf8 Kg6 77. Kg1 Rg3+ 78. Kh1 Rh3+ 79. Kg1 Rg3+ 80. Kf1 Rf3+ 81. Kg1 Rf4 82. Rc3 Kh5 83. Rh8+ Kg4 84. Rhh3 Rfa4 85. Rhg3+ Kh5 86. Rh3+ Kg6 87. Rhe3 f5 88. Red3 f4 89. Rd1 Kf5 90. Rd5+ Kg4 91. Rcd3 f3 92. Rd2 Rxd2 93. Rd3 Ra1#
    Thx , I would check that, but lazy to put this as a Game
@Gonzalo2568 said in #17: > The result is a win, but you need more time. Here you have the PGN: > 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. Nxd6+ Qxd6 8. c3 O-O 9. O-O e5 10. dxe5 Nxe5 11. Nxe5 Qxe5 12. Re1 Qh5 13. Be2 Qg6 14. Bf4 Bh3 15. Bg3 Be6 16. Bxc7 Ne4 17. Bd3 Bd5 18. f3 Nxc3 19. Bxg6 Nxd1 20. Bxh7+ Kxh7 21. Raxd1 Rfc8 22. Rxd5 Rxc7 23. Rh5+ Kg6 24. Rb5 Rd8 25. h4 a6 26. h5+ Kh6 27. Ra5 Rc2 28. g4 Rdd2 29. Rb1 Rg2+ 30. Kh1 Rh2+ 31. Kg1 Rcg2+ 32. Kf1 Rf2+ 33. Kg1 Rfg2+ 34. Kf1 Rf2+ 35. Kg1 Rhg2+ 36. Kh1 Rg3 37. Rd1 Rfxf3 38. Rd8 Kh7 39. Rd4 Rf1+ 40. Kh2 Rfg1 41. Rb4 R1g2+ 42. Kh1 Rg1+ 43. Kh2 R1g2+ 44. Kh1 Rxg4 45. Rb6 Rc2 46. Rxb7 Rf2 47. b3 Kh6 48. Rb6+ f6 49. Re6 Rh4+ 50. Kg1 Rhh2 51. Re8 Rhg2+ 52. Kh1 Rh2+ 53. Kg1 Kh7 54. Rxa6 Rfg2+ 55. Kf1 Rb2 56. Kg1 Rbg2+ 57. Kf1 Rb2 58. Kg1 Rxh5 59. Re1 Rg5+ 60. Kh1 Rh5+ 61. Kg1 Rhh2 62. Rc1 Rhg2+ 63. Kh1 Rgf2 64. Ra3 g5 65. Ra8 Kg6 66. a4 Rxb3 67. a5 Ra3 68. a6 Rfa2 69. Rc6 Rh3+ 70. Kg1 Re3 71. Rc1 Rg3+ 72. Kh1 Rga3 73. a7 Rxa7 74. Rg8+ Kh7 75. Rcc8 R7a3 76. Rgf8 Kg6 77. Kg1 Rg3+ 78. Kh1 Rh3+ 79. Kg1 Rg3+ 80. Kf1 Rf3+ 81. Kg1 Rf4 82. Rc3 Kh5 83. Rh8+ Kg4 84. Rhh3 Rfa4 85. Rhg3+ Kh5 86. Rh3+ Kg6 87. Rhe3 f5 88. Red3 f4 89. Rd1 Kf5 90. Rd5+ Kg4 91. Rcd3 f3 92. Rd2 Rxd2 93. Rd3 Ra1# Thx , I would check that, but lazy to put this as a Game

@aVague said in #19:

Thx , I would check that, but lazy to put this as a Game
Just go to tools, import a game, copy and paste the PGN and watch your game

@aVague said in #19: > Thx , I would check that, but lazy to put this as a Game Just go to tools, import a game, copy and paste the PGN and watch your game

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