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It is well known that both Silman's 'Complete' Endgame Course and Jesus de La Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know contain mistakes. There circulate some errata lists. Some errors may or may not have been corrected in later editions.
Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual was long considered complete and correct, but even in that work Müller has found mistakes.
Fundamental Chess Endings by Müller & Lamprecht is now considered most complete and correct. Carlsen has endorsed it.

It is well known that both Silman's 'Complete' Endgame Course and Jesus de La Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know contain mistakes. There circulate some errata lists. Some errors may or may not have been corrected in later editions. Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual was long considered complete and correct, but even in that work Müller has found mistakes. Fundamental Chess Endings by Müller & Lamprecht is now considered most complete and correct. Carlsen has endorsed it.

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@JustAChessPlayer177 said in #20:

... what makes you think Silman complete endgame course is neither complete nor correct ...

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/silmans-complete-endgame-course?page=6

@ChessPriyome said in #17:

... de La Villa ...
"100" does not claim to be complete. It's aim is to give you are scaled down version of endgames that all players should know down to 100 positions. ...

In 100 Endgames You Must Know, GM Jesús de la Villa wrote:
“... I consider the approach towards the study of the endgame must be multi-staged and always keep the same pace as the player’s overall playing level. ...
In the first stage, it is enough to master ...
A second step in this first stage would involve ... In this book, this would amount to Chapter 1 and Endings 41, 42, 44, 45, 46, 65, 79, 80, 82, 86, 89, 90, 91 and 92.
... and actually that is enough until the moment one reaches, say, a FIDE rating of around 1900-2000. ...
At this stage (2000 FIDE) we should move to the second phase and then the first thing to do is ...
After we have acquired a good command of the basic endgames comes the third phase. ...
I have decided to devote this book to the second phase, ...
...
After years of coaching, my experience and the views of some colleagues have convinced me of the need for an introductory section presenting a chapter on basic endings. ...”- 100 Endgames You Must Know (2008) by GM Jesús de la Villa
https://www.amazon.com/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know/dp/9056916173?asin=9056916173&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf

"Here are some excellent endgame books:
Chess Endings: Essential Knowledge (1993) by Yuri Averbakh ...
Silman's Complete Endgame Course: From Beginning to Master (2007) by Jeremy Silman ...
Understanding Chess Endgames (2009) by John Nunn ...
Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual, 4th edition (2014) by Mark Dvoretsky ...
Practical Chess Endings, 2nd revised edition (2018) by Paul Keres ...
At this point in your training, you probably only need to study one or two of these books to get everything you need. ..." - Learn to Play Chess Like a Boss (2019) by GM Patrick Wolff

@JustAChessPlayer177 said in #20: > ... what makes you think Silman complete endgame course is neither complete nor correct ... https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/silmans-complete-endgame-course?page=6 @ChessPriyome said in #17: > ... de La Villa ... > "100" does not claim to be complete. It's aim is to give you are scaled down version of endgames that all players should know down to 100 positions. ... In 100 Endgames You Must Know, GM Jesús de la Villa wrote: “... I consider the approach towards the study of the endgame must be multi-staged and always keep the same pace as the player’s overall playing level. ... In the first stage, it is enough to master ... A second step in this first stage would involve ... In this book, this would amount to Chapter 1 and Endings 41, 42, 44, 45, 46, 65, 79, 80, 82, 86, 89, 90, 91 and 92. ... and actually that is enough until the moment one reaches, say, a FIDE rating of around 1900-2000. ... At this stage (2000 FIDE) we should move to the second phase and then the first thing to do is ... After we have acquired a good command of the basic endgames comes the third phase. ... I have decided to devote this book to the second phase, ... ... After years of coaching, my experience and the views of some colleagues have convinced me of the need for an introductory section presenting a chapter on basic endings. ...”- 100 Endgames You Must Know (2008) by GM Jesús de la Villa https://www.amazon.com/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know/dp/9056916173?asin=9056916173&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1 https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf "Here are some excellent endgame books: Chess Endings: Essential Knowledge (1993) by Yuri Averbakh ... Silman's Complete Endgame Course: From Beginning to Master (2007) by Jeremy Silman ... Understanding Chess Endgames (2009) by John Nunn ... Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual, 4th edition (2014) by Mark Dvoretsky ... Practical Chess Endings, 2nd revised edition (2018) by Paul Keres ... At this point in your training, you probably only need to study one or two of these books to get everything you need. ..." - Learn to Play Chess Like a Boss (2019) by GM Patrick Wolff

JustAChessPlayer177

@kindaspongey said ^

... what makes you think Silman complete endgame course is neither complete nor correct ...

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/silmans-complete-endgame-course?page=6

@ChessPriyome said in #17:

... de La Villa ...
"100" does not claim to be complete. It's aim is to give you are scaled down version of endgames that all players should know dow...

hire this guy to being a chess teacher LOL

@kindaspongey said [^](/forum/redirect/post/8PxgeNGx) > > ... what makes you think Silman complete endgame course is neither complete nor correct ... > > https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/silmans-complete-endgame-course?page=6 > > @ChessPriyome said in #17: > > ... de La Villa ... > > "100" does not claim to be complete. It's aim is to give you are scaled down version of endgames that all players should know dow... hire this guy to being a chess teacher LOL

ChessPriyome

@tpr said ^

It is well known that both Silman's 'Complete' Endgame Course and Jesus de La Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know contain mistakes. There circulate some errata lists. Some errors may or may not have been corrected in later editions.
Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual was long considered complete and correct, but even in that work Müller has found mistakes.
Fundamental Chess Endings by Müller & Lamprecht is...

It is also 'well known' that "100" is still far more approachable as an endgame book for less-than-stellar rated players than DEM, FCE, and most others, the occasional error not withstanding, because it is based on practical play, and not a collection of theoretical positions with gm-level explanations that can make your head spin.

So, I give the pass to 100 for that. DEM and FCE purport to be something different, more theoretical, more complete, for higher-rated players, no question. Can 1700's use them? Sure. Will they struggle? Sure will. I find 100 to be the sweet spot between practicality and a throbbing headache.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/6MjZKjTP) > It is well known that both Silman's 'Complete' Endgame Course and Jesus de La Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know contain mistakes. There circulate some errata lists. Some errors may or may not have been corrected in later editions. > Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual was long considered complete and correct, but even in that work Müller has found mistakes. > Fundamental Chess Endings by Müller & Lamprecht is... It is also 'well known' that "100" is still far more approachable as an endgame book for less-than-stellar rated players than DEM, FCE, and most others, the occasional error not withstanding, because it is based on practical play, and not a collection of theoretical positions with gm-level explanations that can make your head spin. So, I give the pass to 100 for that. DEM and FCE purport to be something different, more theoretical, more complete, for higher-rated players, no question. Can 1700's use them? Sure. Will they struggle? Sure will. I find 100 to be the sweet spot between practicality and a throbbing headache.