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My way to study Openings:is it bad or good?

@RemRus said ^

when you play like engine in first 1-20 moves

No. When your opponent leaves the learned branch on turn 7, you will not be able to defeat him, because you did not study this branch. There is no need to learn the opening moves. You need to learn the principles of figure development.

for that reason, i will just deep memorize very common openings i can face, another solution is i can look at Lichess database and see every move played by players, make the move and ask myself what to do, problem solved

@RemRus said [^](/forum/redirect/post/SDZk8PPj) > > when you play like engine in first 1-20 moves > > No. When your opponent leaves the learned branch on turn 7, you will not be able to defeat him, because you did not study this branch. There is no need to learn the opening moves. You need to learn the principles of figure development. for that reason, i will just deep memorize very common openings i can face, another solution is i can look at Lichess database and see every move played by players, make the move and ask myself what to do, problem solved

This is the wrong way to study openings. Energy-consuming and useless.

This is the wrong way to study openings. Energy-consuming and useless.

"... I am not a big fan of weaker players memorizing lots of opening lines they will never play. However, it is quite a different issue to spend a small amount of time learning how to play your openings a little better each time they occur. A long journey begins with a single step. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2005)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627023809/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman50.pdf
"... Review each of your games, identifying opening (and other) mistakes with the goal of not repeatedly making the same mistake. ... It is especially critical not to continually fall into opening traps – or even lines that result in difficult positions ... Read many annotated game collections ... By looking at entire games, the aspiring player learns about openings, middlegames, and endgames all at one fell swoop. Playing through annotated games spurs improvement as the reader learns how good players consistently handle common positions and problems. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf

"... I am not a big fan of weaker players memorizing lots of opening lines they will never play. However, it is quite a different issue to spend a small amount of time learning how to play your openings a little better each time they occur. A long journey begins with a single step. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2005) https://web.archive.org/web/20140627023809/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman50.pdf "... Review each of your games, identifying opening (and other) mistakes with the goal of not repeatedly making the same mistake. ... It is especially critical not to continually fall into opening traps – or even lines that result in difficult positions ... Read many annotated game collections ... By looking at entire games, the aspiring player learns about openings, middlegames, and endgames all at one fell swoop. Playing through annotated games spurs improvement as the reader learns how good players consistently handle common positions and problems. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007) https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf

Im a new lichess player so i need a way to learn openings so any suggestions?

Im a new lichess player so i need a way to learn openings so any suggestions?

"i need a way to learn openings"

  • No, you do not need to learn openings. Opening principles are enough. Lasker formulated 4 common sense principles.
  1. Play only your d- and e- pawns.
  2. Do not play the same piece twice.
  3. Play knights first, then bishops.
  4. Do not pin opponent's king's knight with your queen's bishop before your opponent has castled O-O.
"i need a way to learn openings" * No, you do not need to learn openings. Opening principles are enough. Lasker formulated 4 common sense principles. 1. Play only your d- and e- pawns. 2. Do not play the same piece twice. 3. Play knights first, then bishops. 4. Do not pin opponent's king's knight with your queen's bishop before your opponent has castled O-O.

@tpr said ^

"i need a way to learn openings"

  • No, you do not need to learn openings. Opening principles are enough. Lasker formulated 4 common sense principles.
  1. Play only your d- and e- pawns.
  2. Do not play the same piece twice.
  3. Play knights first, then bishops.
  4. Do not pin opponent's king's knight with your queen's bishop before your opponent has castled O-O.

Umm actually better Opening skills and knowledge can lead to learning ideas, skills and better position but still, study Endgames like openings, both are good

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/ma8ZR0Go) > "i need a way to learn openings" > * No, you do not need to learn openings. Opening principles are enough. Lasker formulated 4 common sense principles. > 1. Play only your d- and e- pawns. > 2. Do not play the same piece twice. > 3. Play knights first, then bishops. > 4. Do not pin opponent's king's knight with your queen's bishop before your opponent has castled O-O. Umm actually better Opening skills and knowledge can lead to learning ideas, skills and better position but still, study Endgames like openings, both are good

'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca
Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening.

'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening.

@tpr said ^

'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca
Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening.

Well i dont even know how to study Endgames without sacrificing my entire family's savings, only endgames i know to study is Lichess endgame puzzles and EndgameTrainer.com (if i spelled correctly) and all endgames study i see is boring and very long

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/XwCMph1t) > 'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca > Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening. Well i dont even know how to study Endgames without sacrificing my entire family's savings, only endgames i know to study is Lichess endgame puzzles and EndgameTrainer.com (if i spelled correctly) and all endgames study i see is boring and very long

"how to study Endgames without sacrificing my entire family's savings"

  • Endgame study does not cost money, only time and effort.

"all endgames study i see is boring"

  • That is a common misconception.
"how to study Endgames without sacrificing my entire family's savings" * Endgame study does not cost money, only time and effort. "all endgames study i see is boring" * That is a common misconception.

The best way to practice chess openings is to learn the ideas, not memorize endless moves.

A good, common approach is:

  1. Pick one opening for White and one defense against 1.e4 and 1.d4 as Black

  2. Learn the opening goals For every opening, understand:

Where each piece belongs
Typical pawn structures
Common plans in the middlegame
Tactical themes and traps

  1. Use spaced repetition Train opening lines with tools like Chessable or Lichess Studies. Review a little every day instead of cramming.

  2. Play training games Start games from your chosen opening repeatedly. Rapid games (10+0 or 15+10) are much better for learning than blitz, but blitz will do in a pinch.

  3. Analyze every game After playing (nobody does this unless you are seriously trying to improve and fix your openings):

Find where you left your preparation.
Ask why the best move was better.
Add that position to your opening notes.
Play it against the engine several times from both sides. <== where the learning takes place

  1. Study master games Watch 5-10 high-level games in your opening. You'll learn the typical plans much faster than by memorizing move sequences.

A useful rule by rating
Under 1200: Focus mostly on tactics and basic opening principles.
1200-1800: Build a small, consistent opening repertoire. <== you
1800+: Deeper opening preparation becomes more valuable.

A common mistake is spending hours memorizing 20-move lines while still hanging pieces in the middlegame. For most players below 1600, tactics and game analysis will improve results much faster than additional opening theory.

The best way to practice chess openings is to learn the ideas, not memorize endless moves. A good, common approach is: 1) Pick one opening for White and one defense against 1.e4 and 1.d4 as Black 2) Learn the opening goals For every opening, understand: Where each piece belongs Typical pawn structures Common plans in the middlegame Tactical themes and traps 3) Use spaced repetition Train opening lines with tools like Chessable or Lichess Studies. Review a little every day instead of cramming. 4) Play training games Start games from your chosen opening repeatedly. Rapid games (10+0 or 15+10) are much better for learning than blitz, but blitz will do in a pinch. 5) Analyze every game After playing (nobody does this unless you are seriously trying to improve and fix your openings): Find where you left your preparation. Ask why the best move was better. Add that position to your opening notes. **Play it against the engine several times from both sides. <== where the learning takes place** 6) Study master games Watch 5-10 high-level games in your opening. You'll learn the typical plans much faster than by memorizing move sequences. A useful rule by rating Under 1200: Focus mostly on tactics and basic opening principles. **1200-1800: Build a small, consistent opening repertoire. <== you** 1800+: Deeper opening preparation becomes more valuable. A common mistake is spending hours memorizing 20-move lines while still hanging pieces in the middlegame. For most players below 1600, tactics and game analysis will improve results much faster than additional opening theory.

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