@tpr said in #15:
> "i need a way to learn openings"
> * No, you do not need to learn openings. Opening principles are enough. Lasker formulated 4 common sense principles.
> 1. Play only your d- and e- pawns.
> 2. Do not play the same piece twice.
> 3. Play knights first, then bishops.
> 4. Do not pin opponent's king's knight with your queen's bishop before your opponent has castled O-O.
Even back in 1895, Lasker felt that it was appropriate to add:
"... In regard to Rule 1 you will sometimes, especially in queenside openings, find it a better plan to advance the [c-pawn] two squares before obstructing it by your queen knight. This, however, is the only exception where the violation of the principles just laid down is unquestionably justified. ..."
He also continued with five more lectures about this or that specific opening.
At https://store.doverpublications.com/products/9780486206400 , one can see pages 40-42 of the book that Lasker wrote about 3 decades after the 1895 lectures:
"... One must ... search for rules, laws, principles capable of comprising within their compass the result of a thousand, nay of ten thousand different variations. ... In the eighteenth century [the players with natural talent] announced their first rule: ... 'Get the pieces out.' ... It took a hundred years before a new rule was announced. ... 'Move that one of your pieces, which is in the worst plight, unless you can satisfy yourself that you can derive immediate advantage by an attack.' ... A few decades went by, ... 'public opinion' ... tended towards the rule: Avoid the moves of Pawns in the Opening as far as possible. ... I have added to these principles the law: Get the Knights into action before both Bishops are developed. ... By means of rules, laws, principles of the above kind, players with natural talent could dispense with compilations and the memorizing of them. ... nobody can wholly escape the dire necessity of compiling variations and of examining and memorising them. And therefore such a compilation, though a brief one, is correctly included in a Manual of Chess. Here follows a collection of variations essential in Opening play. ..."
I find it interesting to contrast the description of the "rules, laws, principles" with what had been said in 1895. For one thing, in the 20th century pages, I do not see explicit opposition to pinning-opponent's-king's-knight-with-your-queen's-bishop-before-your-opponent-has-castled. There was also that "dire necessity" comment.
https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/is-spending-hours-study-chess-opening-necessary?page=5
@tpr said in #17:
> 'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca
> Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening.
I wonder how many could identify just where that Capablanca comment is to be found. I myself have not checked, but I have been told that it comes from Last Lectures, a record of radio lectures given around 1942. The introduction described the book as "particularly intended for chess players of moderate strength" and indicated that, in those days, even "strong players" might not know "an ending for beginners".
https://www.amazon.com/Lectures-Chess-Legacy-Raoul-Capabanca/dp/4871877574?asin=4871877574&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1
"... The game might be divided into three parts, i.e.:- 1. The opening. 2. The middle-game. 3. The end-game. There is one thing you must strive for, to be equally efficient in the three parts. Whether you are a strong or a weak player, you should try to be of equal strength in the three parts. ..." - from Capablanca's book, My Chess Career
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/tips-for-beginners-3
@Aryan3187 said in #14:
> Im a new lichess player so i need a way to learn openings so any suggestions?
Maybe, you can find something useful at https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/learning-the-openning.
@JustAChessPlayer177 said in #18:
> ... Well i dont even know how to study Endgames without sacrificing my entire family's savings, only endgames i know to study is Lichess endgame puzzles and EndgameTrainer.com (if i spelled correctly) and all endgames study i see is boring and very long
"... Silman’s Complete Endgame Course ... I'm convinced that Silman's book will take its place in history as one of the most popular endgame books ever. ... He writes in a clear and casual style, and time and again has shown the ability to reach those who feel intimidated by the lofty approach that a grandmaster will often take. ..." - IM John Watson (2007)
https://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all
https://www.amazon.com/Silmans-Complete-Endgame-Course-Beginner/dp/1890085103?asin=B00H273OJS&revisi5a3244f2&format=2&depth=1
@Aryan3187 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/qvZCos8k)
> Im a new lichess player so i need a way to learn openings so any suggestions?
bro Aryan ur in my chess class right u used to be at least ur not new lol
@RemRus
Why 10+5, not 15+10, or 30+20...
@IamNOTamod said [^](/forum/redirect/post/etYQM2fD)
> Why
I suggested that you just press the button, but you didn’t press it. I don't know how to handle this. You won't press the button. You can't play with the engine, but you play. You can't play with bots, but you play. You can't play tournaments, but you play. You can't play a bullet, but you play. You have to play 10+5, but you won’t play, you will ask different questions about time, about rating, about mood, you will find a thousand reasons not to press 10+5. I don’t know how to tell a person “press 10+5” so that he just presses a button in the main menu. No one will ever press the button. I dont know why.
@JustAChessPlayer177 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/FOtFpf4H)
> > 'In order to improve your game you must study the endgame before everything else; for, whereas the endings can be studied and mastered by themselves, the middle game and the opening must be studied in relation to the endgame.' - Capablanca
> > Chess should be learned backwards: first the endgame, then the middle game, last the opening.
>
> Well i dont even...
To make a good foundation, first just learn which endings are winning and which are drawing and learn how to win them: Lucena, Philidor, Vancura, which pawns are winning against a single bishop, which 7th-rank pawns might be drawing against a queen, basic pawn engames (maser opposition and learn which are winning), perhaps the Reti position (it's not common but pretty simple once you see it) Also learn with which pieces you can checkmate for example you can mate with 2 knight vs pawn but not 2 knights. Learning which basics ending are won is a guide that helps you play non-tablebase, tactical endgames, which is often the hardest phase of the game.
@RemRus said in #24:
> ... I suggested that you just press the button, but you didn’t press it. I don't know how to handle this. ... You have to play 10+5, but you won’t ...
What's to handle? It's not the end of the world if someone doesn't follow your suggestion. Didn't I see you trying to convince people to use you as a coach? Do you think people are going to want a coach who acts this way in public?
@JustAChessPlayer177 said in #9:
> ... when you play like engine in first 1-20 moves, you can destroy them if they make inaccuracy
It cannot be expected that one will be able to "destroy" an opponent after a departure from a line that one has memorized. 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 O-O Be7 6 Re1 b5 7 Bb3 d6 8 c3 O-O is only 8 moves, and, already, there are lots of viable alternatives for various Black moves along the way.
"... Now jump ahead sixty years to 2020. ... the Berlin Defense to the Spanish (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6), which was considered a dubious sideline in Fischer’s day, is now considered to be very close to equal. Also the Marshall Gambit in the Spanish is now considered to be close to a draw, and good counters have been found to the various ways by which White used to avoid the Marshall. ..." - GM Larry Kaufman
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9092.pdf
@RemRus said [^](/forum/redirect/post/BlfsqVNr)
> > who acts this way in public?
>
> It seems completely different to me. You have played 1 game in 5 years (!!!???), but you go and advertise to buy someone else’s book in order to read something in it on page 45. I don't publicly hide my rating. Everyone can read about me, my studios, my blogs. I'm not hiding. YOU press 10+5 button in main menu.
@RemRus said in #7:
> ... you go and advertise to buy someone else’s book in order to read something in it on page 45. ...
Simply false. One can see the table of contents of Wolff's book for free online.
https://lichess.org/forum/game-analysis/850-elo-what-are-my-biggest-strengths-and-weaknesses
@RemRus said in #7:
> ... I don't publicly hide my rating. ...
I WAS ~1500 USCF, years ago. Who knows what I would be, now?
I guess you don't want to discuss the effect of your public behavior on people considering you as a coach.
@RemRus said in #8:
> ... YOU press 10+5 button in main menu.
Is there any controversy about the truth of a specific statement that I have written?
If I post an opinion on the Obi-Wan Benoni or something, then I suppose that my rating would be important.
I guess you also don't want to discuss what is difficult for you about someone not following your suggestion.
For the record:
NO WAY am i pushing that button. you can go pound sand.
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