@SF18NNUE-SFNNV12 Ding at his peak was #2 behind Carlsen with 2018 rating. From August 2017 to November 2018 he had a 100-game unbeaten streak! In August 2019, Ding tied first in the Sinquefield Cup with a score of 6½/11 (+2−0=9) with a performance rating of 2845. He won the tournament after beating Magnus Carlsen in the playoffs, drawing both games in the rapid portion and winning 2–0 in the blitz portion.
Weak? Really?
@SF18NNUE-SFNNV12 Ding at his peak was #2 behind Carlsen with 2018 rating. From August 2017 to November 2018 he had a 100-game unbeaten streak! In August 2019, Ding tied first in the Sinquefield Cup with a score of 6½/11 (+2−0=9) with a performance rating of 2845. He won the tournament after beating Magnus Carlsen in the playoffs, drawing both games in the rapid portion and winning 2–0 in the blitz portion.
Weak? Really?
Kramnik and he's also overrated as a person
Kramnik and he's also overrated as a person
@plmw said ^
Kramnik and he's also overrated as a person
his match against Kasparov was rightfully Shirov's to play. Kramnik did not earn it, but the people who manipulate things wanted Kramnick to get a chance that he didn't earn. the bathroom scandal with Topalov looks worse the more you look at it.
@plmw said [^](/forum/redirect/post/C9LvVHjV)
> Kramnik and he's also overrated as a person
his match against Kasparov was rightfully Shirov's to play. Kramnik did not earn it, but the people who manipulate things wanted Kramnick to get a chance that he didn't earn. the bathroom scandal with Topalov looks worse the more you look at it.
I dont think anyone is overrated. I mean, not everyone is a World Champion.
I dont think anyone is *overrated*. I mean, not everyone is a ***World Champion***.
@aRjuN_rOy said ^
Ding Liren and Gukesh never deserved the world championship title.
This is just wrong, and it's genuinely sad that people actually think this.
Any person who has obtained the World Championship title absolutely deserves it -- it is the culmination of months of tournament play, opening preparation, and the general training that comes with being a top player. The World Champion may not always be the best player in the world, but that does not mean they do not deserve the title. If the best player is unable to or chooses not to play, that should not lower the accomplishment for anyone else who wins the title.
While it is a little disappointing that the best player does not hold the title, part of me is actually glad that Magnus stepped down. We are currently at a rare point in time in which virtually anyone in the top 20 or even top 30 has a real shot at winning the title. What was once dominated by one person is now a much more interesting and unpredictable competition.
To address OP's question, I don't think there is an overrated World Champion: they all deserve a ton of praise for their contributions to chess and chess history. If anything, some of them are probably underrated.
@aRjuN_rOy said [^](/forum/redirect/post/5pdu19as)
> Ding Liren and Gukesh never deserved the world championship title.
This is just wrong, and it's genuinely sad that people actually think this.
Any person who has obtained the World Championship title absolutely deserves it -- it is the culmination of months of tournament play, opening preparation, and the general training that comes with being a top player. The World Champion may not always be the best player in the world, but that does not mean they do not deserve the title. If the best player is unable to or chooses not to play, that should not lower the accomplishment for anyone else who wins the title.
While it is a little disappointing that the best player does not hold the title, part of me is actually glad that Magnus stepped down. We are currently at a rare point in time in which virtually anyone in the top 20 or even top 30 has a real shot at winning the title. What was once dominated by one person is now a much more interesting and unpredictable competition.
To address OP's question, I don't think there is an overrated World Champion: they all deserve a ton of praise for their contributions to chess and chess history. If anything, some of them are probably underrated.
Alekhine, Euwe, Smyslov, Kramnik.
Alekhine, Euwe, Smyslov, Kramnik.
I would go with Alekhine because after beating Capablanca he denied him a rematch and instead played matches against Bogoljubow and Euwe (whom he lost to). I consider him overrated for this because a true champion would want to face the strongest challenger. (This was back in the days when the world champion had a lot more control over the match conditions.)
I would go with Alekhine because after beating Capablanca he denied him a rematch and instead played matches against Bogoljubow and Euwe (whom he lost to). I consider him overrated for this because a true champion would want to face the strongest challenger. (This was back in the days when the world champion had a lot more control over the match conditions.)
@RuyLopez1000 said ^
Who is the most overrated World Champion and why?
Discuss.
Nakamura, in his own mind.
@RuyLopez1000 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/viHHGC2j)
> **Who** is the most overrated World Champion and **why**?
>
> Discuss.
Nakamura, in his own mind.