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Dealing with cheaters

BaronVonChickenpants

@Sub-Culture said ^

Is there even any position, that cares about cheating requests?
Comparing to Chess.com, it seems like no one cares about cheating reports. For comparison, on Chess.com nearly 10 percent of my outgoing reports, had been proved right- on lichess out of almost 40 cases i get no response whatsoever.

So you are saying you are wrong 90% of the time?

@Sub-Culture said [^](/forum/redirect/post/5d1QeKWQ) > Is there even any position, that cares about cheating requests? > Comparing to Chess.com, it seems like no one cares about cheating reports. For comparison, on Chess.com nearly 10 percent of my outgoing reports, had been proved right- on lichess out of almost 40 cases i get no response whatsoever. So you are saying you are wrong 90% of the time?
BaronVonChickenpants

@Sub-Culture Did you delete your reply? I had a notification about it but its gone.

@Sub-Culture Did you delete your reply? I had a notification about it but its gone.
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eight_x_eightedited

@Deadban said ^

Clearly you're wrong most of the times. If not all.

A little on the supercilious side, which there is no need for. Firstly, a report doesn't mean you're certain someone cheated, merely that you're suspicious enough to think it's worth Lichess checking. Secondly, Lichess doesn't ban everyone who cheats.
(Catching all cheaters isn't possible with current technology, even with unlimited resources, so pointing out this limitation isn't a dig at Lichess).

@Deadban said [^](/forum/redirect/post/KGyvfkl9) > Clearly you're wrong most of the times. If not all. A little on the supercilious side, which there is no need for. Firstly, a report doesn't mean you're certain someone cheated, merely that you're suspicious enough to think it's worth Lichess checking. Secondly, Lichess doesn't ban everyone who cheats. (Catching all cheaters isn't possible with current technology, even with unlimited resources, so pointing out this limitation isn't a dig at Lichess).
Deadban

@eight_x_eight said ^

Clearly you're wrong most of the times. If not all.

It's statistically very improbable that someone encounters a cheater every four games, yet that's what OP claims. They actually claim that's an even underrated guess.

Firstly, a report doesn't mean you're certain someone cheated, merely that you're suspicious enough to think it's worth Lichess checking.

Despite Lichess efforts to lead people to use the report button effectively by providing a reasonable explanation of the accusation, it currently is possible to report someone by just copy-pasting a game url. OP checks all the boxes of someone who just spams reports because they're free.

@eight_x_eight said [^](/forum/redirect/post/LgMM3vhp) > > Clearly you're wrong most of the times. If not all. It's statistically very improbable that someone encounters a cheater every four games, yet that's what OP claims. They actually claim that's an even underrated guess. > Firstly, a report doesn't mean you're certain someone cheated, merely that you're suspicious enough to think it's worth Lichess checking. Despite Lichess efforts to lead people to use the report button effectively by providing a reasonable explanation of the accusation, it currently is possible to report someone by just copy-pasting a game url. OP checks all the boxes of someone who just spams reports because they're free.
BaronVonChickenpants

@Sub-Culture said ^

@Sub-Culture

No, it has been deleted by lichess.

I guess it wasn't too pleasant then

@Sub-Culture said [^](/forum/redirect/post/U3ipGGII) > > @Sub-Culture > > No, it has been deleted by lichess. I guess it wasn't too pleasant then
boombox2000

@Deadban said ^

Despite Lichess efforts to lead people to use the report button effectively by providing a reasonable explanation of the accusation,

Do you have examples of this? Thank you.

@Deadban said [^](/forum/redirect/post/RbkQKKke) > Despite Lichess efforts to lead people to use the report button effectively by providing a reasonable explanation of the accusation, Do you have examples of this? Thank you.
Deadban

Paste the link to the game(s) and explain what is wrong about this user's behaviour. Don't just say "they cheat", but tell us how you came to this conclusion. We can process your report faster if you write in English. Maximum 3000 characters.

> Paste the link to the game(s) and explain what is wrong about this user's behaviour. Don't just say "they cheat", but tell us how you came to this conclusion. We can process your report faster if you write in English. Maximum 3000 characters.
chavezo

@SubCulture can you post here a link to a game (or, better, several games) where you think the winner was cheating? I am curious about how to detect cheating in such fast games. I play mostly correspondence, and classical, where cheating should be easy (plenty of time to check engines, ask friends, and whatnot), and yet, I don't have a single example where I think I lost to a cheater.

@SubCulture can you post here a link to a game (or, better, several games) where you think the winner was cheating? I am curious about how to detect cheating in such fast games. I play mostly correspondence, and classical, where cheating should be easy (plenty of time to check engines, ask friends, and whatnot), and yet, I don't have a single example where I think I lost to a cheater.