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@Chesslayer12 said ^

You know what also harms the climate? Cows.

Humans harm the climate significantly more than cows.

That is not my point. This is a discussion about intelligence. What I wanted to point out is that we‘re not the only ones making the mistake of harming the climate.
I even said that we have higher power/higher responsibility. That is the reason why we harm it so significantly more.

Animals and humans are words made by humans.

Sure, I guess. Animals do not speak our language and have their own language. They can still have a similar thought but in a completely different way of saying it.

I don‘t know in which context I said this and I can’t find it but I‘ll just believe you I did. I really doubt that they think about us like that at all. I think they just think of us as creatures of danger to them. They‘ve got no reason to ask deeper what we truly are, they just want to survive.
This may not count for all animals since some are obviously more curious than others.

@Chesslayer12 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/lWiF3U6R) > > You know what also harms the climate? Cows. > > Humans harm the climate significantly more than cows. That is not my point. This is a discussion about intelligence. What I wanted to point out is that we‘re not the only ones making the mistake of harming the climate. I even said that we have higher power/higher responsibility. That is the reason why we harm it so significantly more. > > Animals and humans are words made by humans. > > Sure, I guess. Animals do not speak our language and have their own language. They can still have a similar thought but in a completely different way of saying it. I don‘t know in which context I said this and I can’t find it but I‘ll just believe you I did. I really doubt that they think about us like that at all. I think they just think of us as creatures of danger to them. They‘ve got no reason to ask deeper what we truly are, they just want to survive. This may not count for all animals since some are obviously more curious than others.

@Quasar3C273 said ^

I will say that although humans may be "the most intelligent species on the planet" we certainly do worse things to our planet than any other species. It does not seem intelligent to me; maybe there are different types of intelligence, like an IQ sort of intelligence versus an awareness of the consequences of our actions. The problem is that we have broken out of the system of checks and balances, and don't seem to understand that now we have to check and balance ourselves...

We harm our planet more than every other creature because we‘re so powerful and intelligent that every single of our mistakes has a grander impact than the one of every other creature on our planet.
That has nothing to do with intelligence.

As well as the fact that we‘re discussing this at all proves that we even have a high awareness of the consequences, just that every mistake is fatal.

@Quasar3C273 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/duJX0t2M) > I will say that although humans may be "the most intelligent species on the planet" we certainly do worse things to our planet than any other species. It does not seem intelligent to me; maybe there are different types of intelligence, like an IQ sort of intelligence versus an awareness of the consequences of our actions. The problem is that we have broken out of the system of checks and balances, and don't seem to understand that now we have to check and balance ourselves... We harm our planet more than every other creature because we‘re so powerful and intelligent that every single of our mistakes has a grander impact than the one of every other creature on our planet. That has nothing to do with intelligence. As well as the fact that we‘re discussing this at all proves that we even have a high awareness of the consequences, just that every mistake is fatal.

@MercuryTrismegistus ok surprise, I did look it up because I wanted to know how hilariously dumb it actually was what I said.
Yeah so I take it back, that‘s my bad.
However I can‘t help but point out that after I accidentally called a scientific theory a conspiracy theory, you immediately crashed out on me. However, all you did throughout this all forum is to curse about every last bit of science I believe in and denying all of it.
You should maybe look at what you do to others before you complain about what others do to you.
This still doesn‘t make what I said right, just to make that clear.

@MercuryTrismegistus ok surprise, I did look it up because I wanted to know how hilariously dumb it actually was what I said. Yeah so I take it back, that‘s my bad. However I can‘t help but point out that after I accidentally called a scientific theory a conspiracy theory, you immediately crashed out on me. However, all you did throughout this all forum is to curse about every last bit of science I believe in and denying all of it. You should maybe look at what you do to others before you complain about what others do to you. This still doesn‘t make what I said right, just to make that clear.

@MysteryPhantom7 said ^

We harm our planet more than every other creature because we‘re so powerful and intelligent that every single of our mistakes has a grander impact than the one of every other creature on our planet.
That has nothing to do with intelligence.

It has to do with intelligence, because it's not just mistakes that we do not realise about until afterwards. It is systematic behavior that we continue in despite knowing it is bad. That doesn't seem smart to me.

As well as the fact that we‘re discussing this at all proves that we even have a high awareness of the consequences, just that every mistake is fatal.

I could have worded that better; my English isn't that great. What I mean is that although we understand the consequences, we still continue acting wrongly to bring those consequences upon us (mostly because people/companies are greedy for money, more money, and yet more money, at the expense of everything else).

@MysteryPhantom7 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/lHEtckm7) > We harm our planet more than every other creature because we‘re so powerful and intelligent that every single of our mistakes has a grander impact than the one of every other creature on our planet. > That has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with intelligence, because it's not just mistakes that we do not realise about until afterwards. It is systematic behavior that we continue in **despite knowing it is bad**. That doesn't seem smart to me. > As well as the fact that we‘re discussing this at all proves that we even have a high awareness of the consequences, just that every mistake is fatal. I could have worded that better; my English isn't that great. What I mean is that although we understand the consequences, we still continue acting wrongly to bring those consequences upon us (mostly because people/companies are greedy for money, more money, and yet more money, at the expense of everything else).

„It has to do with intelligence, because it's not just mistakes that we do not realise about until afterwards. It is systematic behavior that we continue in despite knowing it is bad. That doesn't seem smart to me.“
I will not try to justify that. We are not perfect geniuses.
All I‘m saying is, that not one single animal would’ve been able to predict consequences much better and DEFINITELY not in combination with discovering and understanding something in the first place.
Science makes mistakes, that‘s the only way to improve it.

„It has to do with intelligence, because it's not just mistakes that we do not realise about until afterwards. It is systematic behavior that we continue in despite knowing it is bad. That doesn't seem smart to me.“ I will not try to justify that. We are not perfect geniuses. All I‘m saying is, that not one single animal would’ve been able to predict consequences much better and DEFINITELY not in combination with discovering and understanding something in the first place. Science makes mistakes, that‘s the only way to improve it.
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„I inform you that conspiracy theories, such as flat earth, are designed to make you associate new information (new information that those who wish to control you do not wish you to know)“

When do you get it, NOBODY WANTS TO CONTROL YOU OR ME.

„I promise you, humans are the DUMBEST beings on planet earth. Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. Humans do not solve problems, they CAUSE problems.
That is NEGATIVE intelligence exhibited by no other brains on the planet.“

First of all, no that is not negative intelligence, negative intelligence is a form of intelligence as well and describes the ability to know when not to do something and most of all has to do with how you handle failure. If it really were negative intelligence, that would simply make us humans more intelligent.

Yes we solve problems, if you‘re blind to it?
Maybe just look up all the actually good things we did throughout the last century since it seems your paranoid mind is blind to everything positive in the world.
Even the most intelligent or smart creature on earth will make mistakes and cause problems, and the reason why they‘re so destructive are because the power we wield, NOT because we make so many mistakes or something.

„I inform you that conspiracy theories, such as flat earth, are designed to make you associate new information (new information that those who wish to control you do not wish you to know)“ When do you get it, NOBODY WANTS TO CONTROL YOU OR ME. „I promise you, humans are the DUMBEST beings on planet earth. Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. Humans do not solve problems, they CAUSE problems. That is NEGATIVE intelligence exhibited by no other brains on the planet.“ First of all, no that is not negative intelligence, negative intelligence is a form of intelligence as well and describes the ability to know when not to do something and most of all has to do with how you handle failure. If it really were negative intelligence, that would simply make us humans more intelligent. Yes we solve problems, if you‘re blind to it? Maybe just look up all the actually good things we did throughout the last century since it seems your paranoid mind is blind to everything positive in the world. Even the most intelligent or smart creature on earth will make mistakes and cause problems, and the reason why they‘re so destructive are because the power we wield, NOT because we make so many mistakes or something.
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Why is it that whatever topic I create turns into a legendary heated debate lol

Why is it that whatever topic I create turns into a legendary heated debate lol