Yes, the Electoral College is a system which is mostly broken. Just look at how the 2016 election was stolen/influenced by Russian Federation. This isn't a "wild conspiracy theory" it's very factual and documented. They bought millions and millions of dollars of ad - spaces on Facebook primarily, and influenced -- manipulated -- the election. This is simply what happened.
How humans related to obstacles is something we should have a close look at. This is a real problem in our society -- what happened in 2016, and what is happening today.
In any case, I do not say this to upset anyone, or to make anger or anything -- I say this to make change.
Robert Anton Wilson, maybe it was, who said, "I do not consider the power elite to be some others somewhere far distant; I consider it to be myself and my friends." And so on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20special%20counsel,wage%20%22a%20social%20media%20campaign
#81: Technically, the proper implementation of the Electoral College would have negated the impacts of Russian interference, but it's hard to get people on board with their representatives being able to vote against those whom they represent.
@FC-in-the-UK said in #79:
> It is neither.
It is both.
>I already hear your counter-argument "but it's not the actions of a minority, it's actually the silent majority because they should change the law but they don't". Well, PRECISELY. The same apply to the US. If a state is allowed to have backwards laws, it means that the silent majority is not willing to change things at the federal level.
Strawman. Also, not how the US government works. The federal government is not divided into states in order to make management easier. The federal government was created as a function of a unified body of states (hence the term "states", which is technically more similar to "country" than "district" or "region") to make cooperation easier. States really do have rights that the federal government does not. It's an issue that is overlooked because state's rights were lumped in with slavery during the Civil War, but state's rights were never abolished by the federal government. In fact, they cannot be abolished under the federal government, due to the structure and composition of the US government. If a state has backwards laws, that means the federal government is not overstepping its bounds to manipulate state laws. Judge the state all you want, but the government is not responsible for making sure everyone is philosophically identical.
>Would you not judge this country on the actions of a minority? Would you not say that despite all the advantages you can imagine, this country is backwards (and significantly worse than most of the current countries)?
Implied false equivalence (or else completely irrelevant). If there were a state that allowed mass terrorism, that would a) probably be illegal under the laws that the federal government is allowed to pass, and b) be worthy of condemnation as a state. I'm not going to say that its neighbors suck because the state itself is bad.
Technically, we're also venturing into non-sequitur territory since any country that allows 6 percent of its population to engage in violent terrorism against another portion of the country is in no way compatible with my view of ideal government (liberalism) and good culture.
@FC-in-the-UK
and in the UK teenage pregnancy, promiscuity, binge drinking, ra*pe culture, victim blaming, casual racism, escalating homophobia and s**ism are basic British values. These are British values and British identity: Groping, p**dophilia, l**dism, chauvinism, boorishness, old queens, battery and assault, drinking, taking copious amounts of drugs, smoking, littering, ram-raiding, car stealing, fathering children by different mothers, halitosis, obesity, toupes, shortness, bad dress sense, shaved heads, tattoos, gold teeth, earrings on men, pig ignorance, obscene inequality, hammer the poor and disabled. Kowtow to a wealthy elite and let corporate corruption go unpunished whilst attacking the most vulnerable? Cater to the whims of Banksters and business and punish the poor?hey yo now you think your country is better ? I don't think so all countries have their pros and cons!
What you said is stupid in her opinion (@donya1386)
@Mala921 said in #84:
> @FC-in-the-UK
> and in the UK teenage pregnancy,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> promiscuity,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> binge drinking,
Do you have a problem with that?
> ra*pe culture, victim blaming, casual racism, escalating homophobia and s**ism are basic British values.
Yep those are issues but they aren't "basic British values"
> These are British values and British identity:
They are not, you are swimming in stereotypes
> Groping,
Name a country without any sex abuser
> p**dophilia,
name a country without any pedophile
> l**dism,
Assuming you meant lordism, I dunno.
> chauvinism,
Says the person that was so offended that someone ctiticized the US that they reverted to an uninterrupted flow of insults.
> boorishness,
Stereotype
> old queens,
Everyone eventually gets old you know
> battery and assault,
Name a country where that doesn't happen.
> drinking,
Do you have an issue with that?
> taking copious amounts of drugs,
Do you have an issue with that?
> smoking,
Do you have an issue with that?
> littering,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> ram-raiding,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> car stealing,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> fathering children by different mothers,
Do you have an issue with that?
> halitosis,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> obesity,
Name a country where that doesn't happen
> toupes,
Not sure what you meant by that
> shortness,
Do you have an issue with short people? Besides, on average, Brits are rather taller than most other countries.
> bad dress sense,
Subjective
> shaved heads,
Do you have an issue with that?
> tattoos,
Do you have an issue with that?
> gold teeth,
Do you have an issue with that?
> earrings on men,
Do you have an issue with that?
> pig ignorance,
Stereotype
> obscene inequality, hammer the poor and disabled. Kowtow to a wealthy elite and let corporate corruption go unpunished whilst attacking the most vulnerable? Cater to the whims of Banksters and business and punish the poor?
Well yeah that's bad politics.
> hey yo now you think your country is better ? I
I don't think FC was saying his country is better. "This other heaven on Earth" was obviously sarcastic.
@PxJ said in #85:
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Do you have a problem with that?
>
> Yep those are issues but they aren't "basic British values"
>
> They are not, you are swimming in stereotypes
>
> Name a country without any sex abuser
>
> name a country without any pedophile
>
> Assuming you meant lordism, I dunno.
>
> Says the person that was so offended that someone ctiticized the US that they reverted to an uninterrupted flow of insults.
>
> Stereotype
>
> Everyone eventually gets old you know
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen.
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Name a country where that doesn't happen
>
> Not sure what you meant by that
>
> Do you have an issue with short people? Besides, on average, Brits are rather taller than most other countries.
>
> Subjective
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Do you have an issue with that?
>
> Stereotype
>
> Well yeah that's bad politics.
>
> I don't think FC was saying his country is better. "This other heaven on Earth" was obviously sarcastic.
Sometimes the only person that understand me is myself.
He talks about America and the events that are happening in it as if everything in his country and in the history of his country is perfect and this is wrong.
Lol I don't see any indication that they think his countey is perfect. Quite the opposite actually.
what do you do steal rams?
then what?
Are you dressed like a vampire right now?
When are we all gonna die, already? have a projection date? have a wager against other date? -(dates?)?
thanks man
nice country by the way
"Are you dressed like a vampire right now?" deserves it's own forum
I have my theories. Seems like more people have a second account than I originally thought...
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