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What does 2 + 2 make?

@AveraWyvern said ^

you cant get rid of the stuff in the parentheses, that would create a false answer. You would first have to solve in those parentheses, which would be 0, which means that actually means 0=0

According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p

Wyvern logic = fallacious logic

@AveraWyvern said [^](/forum/redirect/post/iLgT0UxK) > > you cant get rid of the stuff in the parentheses, that would create a false answer. You would first have to solve in those parentheses, which would be 0, which means that actually means 0=0 > > According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p Wyvern logic = fallacious logic

@Quasar3C273 said ^

According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p

Wyvern logic = fallacious logic

You just don’t understand wyvern mathematics ._.

@Quasar3C273 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/nowIQoCf) > > According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p > > Wyvern logic = fallacious logic You just don’t understand wyvern mathematics ._.

No more wrong answers!

2+2
=0''+0''
=0''''
=4

All hail the Peano axioms!

No more wrong answers! 2+2 =0''+0'' =0'''' =4 All hail the Peano axioms!

@chessplayer123581321 said ^

2+2
=2+1'
=2'' (n+1=n', successor operation)
=3'
=4

Wait... Shouldn't it be 0''? 0 is the first natural number.

@chessplayer123581321 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/TLNlxJkL) > 2+2 > =2+1' > =2'' (n+1=n', successor operation) > =3' > =4 Wait... Shouldn't it be `0''`? 0 is the first natural number.

@KhrivenilSSP said ^

2+2
=2+1'
=2'' (n+1=n', successor operation)
=3'
=4

Wait... Shouldn't it be 0''? 0 is the first natural number.

Strictly speaking, you are right
2+2
=2+1'
=2+0''
=2''
=3'
=4

@KhrivenilSSP said [^](/forum/redirect/post/IHD8fknZ) > > 2+2 > > =2+1' > > =2'' (n+1=n', successor operation) > > =3' > > =4 > > Wait... Shouldn't it be `0''`? 0 is the first natural number. Strictly speaking, you are right 2+2 =2+1' =2+0'' =2'' =3' =4

As far as i know, both 0 and 1 are valid as first natural number, and there are two variations of PA seeing 0 and 1 as natural number

As far as i know, both 0 and 1 are valid as first natural number, and there are two variations of PA seeing 0 and 1 as natural number

@chessplayer123581321 said ^

As far as i know, both 0 and 1 are valid as first natural number, and there are two variations of PA seeing 0 and 1 as natural number

Yes. In Liu Xinyu's Isomorphism: Mathematics in Programming, the first N.Num. is 0, while in Elementary Mathematics Research, the first one is 1.

@chessplayer123581321 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/bRfmyFGt) > As far as i know, both 0 and 1 are valid as first natural number, and there are two variations of PA seeing 0 and 1 as natural number Yes. In Liu Xinyu's *Isomorphism: Mathematics in Programming*, the first N.Num. is 0, while in *Elementary Mathematics Research*, the first one is 1.

@AveraWyvern said ^

According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p

Wyvern logic = fallacious logic

You just don’t understand wyvern mathematics ._.

Wyvern Mathematics = Heretic Mathematics, at least it won't make any sense

@AveraWyvern said [^](/forum/redirect/post/YwUSVJAx) > > > According to wyvern logic, 4 = 5 because I said so ;p > > > > Wyvern logic = fallacious logic > > You just don’t understand wyvern mathematics ._. Wyvern Mathematics = Heretic Mathematics, at least it won't make any sense

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