@BaronVonChickenpants said ^
I'm going to ask my opponents "no matter what happens, don;t resign" and rake in the Elo
if A implies B, that does not necessarily mean that ¬A implies ¬B. and indeed in this case it does not. happy to help.
@BaronVonChickenpants said [^](/forum/redirect/post/xZIumLh9)
> I'm going to ask my opponents "no matter what happens, don;t resign" and rake in the Elo
if A implies B, that does not necessarily mean that ¬A implies ¬B. and indeed in this case it does not. happy to help.
Dragging out th game in a hopelessly lost position, just because you can, is legal for sure, but it disrespectful to the game and bad sportsmanship. It's also a waste of time.
Do much of that at a OTB chess club, and you'd make yourself unpopular. People would stop playing you. Of course when you are anonymous on the internet, you can do wtf you want.
If it happens me on lichens, I just block them. goodbye.
Dragging out th game in a hopelessly lost position, just because you can, is legal for sure, but it disrespectful to the game and bad sportsmanship. It's also a waste of time.
Do much of that at a OTB chess club, and you'd make yourself unpopular. People would stop playing you. Of course when you are anonymous on the internet, you can do wtf you want.
If it happens me on lichens, I just block them. goodbye.
@glbert said ^
I'm going to ask my opponents "no matter what happens, don;t resign" and rake in the Elo
if A implies B, that does not necessarily mean that ¬A implies ¬B. and indeed in this case it does not. happy to help.
But interestingly, it does mean that ¬B implies ¬A... :-p
@glbert said [^](/forum/redirect/post/F4FULoNx)
> > I'm going to ask my opponents "no matter what happens, don;t resign" and rake in the Elo
>
> if A implies B, that does not necessarily mean that ¬A implies ¬B. and indeed in this case it does not. happy to help.
But interestingly, it does mean that ¬B implies ¬A... :-p
@fguy_65 said ^
Dragging out th game in a hopelessly lost position, just because you can, is legal for sure, but it disrespectful to the game and bad sportsmanship. It's also a waste of time.
Do much of that at a OTB chess club, and you'd make yourself unpopular. People would stop playing you. Of course when you are anonymous on the internet, you can do wtf you want.
If it happens me on lichens, I just block them. goodbye.
All I've been saying. We have a right to criticize and not play with these people. But apparently, most of this thread is actually a rant place for these kinds of players to double down on their behaviour.
@fguy_65 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/BzLzRKbn)
> Dragging out th game in a hopelessly lost position, just because you can, is legal for sure, but it disrespectful to the game and bad sportsmanship. It's also a waste of time.
>
> Do much of that at a OTB chess club, and you'd make yourself unpopular. People would stop playing you. Of course when you are anonymous on the internet, you can do wtf you want.
>
> If it happens me on lichens, I just block them. goodbye.
All I've been saying. We have a right to criticize and not play with these people. But apparently, most of this thread is actually a rant place for these kinds of players to double down on their behaviour.
@BaronVonChickenpants said ^
@BaronVonChickenpants @CG314
I just wanna say, I would want to too. But if you were to step back, its a practice that's sadistic. And you know it. If I ever, I would be completely fine with being called a troll or stingy for elo instead of trying to call it some fighting spirit or say that it serves any purpose.
Sadistic? Not at all! I learn the most from lost games. Resigning too soon denies you learning opportunities
You don't learn much after your first major mistake. I guess you can make another mistake again in the same game and learn some more...... instead of just resigning and starting up another game. But ok.
The point is, you resigning is beneficial to both you and the opponent, unless elo really matters so much to you.
@BaronVonChickenpants said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Q2Ym4sza)
> > @BaronVonChickenpants @CG314
> > I just wanna say, I would want to too. But if you were to step back, its a practice that's sadistic. And you know it. If I ever, I would be completely fine with being called a troll or stingy for elo instead of trying to call it some fighting spirit or say that it serves any purpose.
>
> Sadistic? Not at all! I learn the most from lost games. Resigning too soon denies you learning opportunities
You don't learn much after your first major mistake. I guess you can make another mistake again in the same game and learn some more...... instead of just resigning and starting up another game. But ok.
The point is, you resigning is beneficial to both you and the opponent, unless elo really matters so much to you.
OK, thank you for explaining to me when you learn things in chess. I had no idea... I guess that is why you are soooo much better a player than I am.
OK, thank you for explaining to me when you learn things in chess. I had no idea... I guess that is why you are soooo much better a player than I am.
Back in the 80's it was quite rare that someone would play hopelessly lost games all the way to a checkmate. Today, probably under influence of popular youtubers and their "never resign" mantra, it's more common even OTB. And some even tell you you are wrong if you don't do it.
Back in the 80's it was quite rare that someone would play hopelessly lost games all the way to a checkmate. Today, probably under influence of popular youtubers and their "never resign" mantra, it's more common even OTB. And some even tell you you are wrong if you don't do it.
"bad sportsmanship"
- Begging for a resignation or a draw is bad sportsmanship.
"bad sportsmanship"
* Begging for a resignation or a draw is bad sportsmanship.
As I will not read every post in this thread---especially when it is filled with copy-pasted posts---I will instead assume that someone has claimed, 'by not resigning a lost position, my opponent is wasting my time.' Chess is a hobby; it is something we do to waste time. If you do not wish to waste your time, then do something productive with it: Use the internet to learn something about new laws that may affect you; go to a gym; clean your room... any of those things will be a more productive use of your time than moving pieces on a board in a game that is hundreds of years old and that you have no real understanding of.
As I will not read every post in this thread---especially when it is filled with copy-pasted posts---I will instead assume that someone has claimed, 'by not resigning a lost position, my opponent is wasting my time.' Chess is a hobby; it is something we do to waste time. If you do not wish to waste your time, then do something productive with it: Use the internet to learn something about new laws that may affect you; go to a gym; clean your room... any of those things will be a more productive use of your time than moving pieces on a board in a game that is hundreds of years old and that you have no real understanding of.
@CG314 said ^
-I was punishing myself for my blunder earlier by forcing myself to play this dreadful position to the end.
Tried that once in this game; after the game I didn't feel proud, rather sorry for the boy.
@CG314 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/S289Ou4w)
> -I was punishing myself for my blunder earlier by forcing myself to play this dreadful position to the end.
Tried that once in [this game](https://lichess.org/study/vOxJK22K/GOTDBe1L); after the game I didn't feel proud, rather sorry for the boy.