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Does Time Exist?

Time is real as part of the world’s structure, but much of how we experience and label it is invented.

Time is real as part of the world’s structure, but much of how we experience and label it is invented.

@Banzai9 said ^

That does make sense, but what do we define as existing? Exist as in physically or as in having being in reality?

That is an easy and complicated question. As it has a physical definition and a philosophical one.

The philosophical definition encompass concepts, ideas, words, etc. But we arent talking about that i presume.

The easy answer is plain matter. Something that occupies space and has has mass. Anything outside it it doesnt exist, unless its a philosophical definition.

But there is an issue with that definition. You eventually have to ask if space exist physically. Space itself has no mass as far as I know. But there is mass in space. Space is just the container.

While it is obvious that mass occupies space, space itself it is just an area. A delimitation. And you have to question if it does exist physically or if its just an abstract concept. Or if its a property of something that does exists. I dont know the answer for that.

@Banzai9 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/blJd63Cz) > That does make sense, but what do we define as existing? Exist as in physically or as in having being in reality? That is an easy and complicated question. As it has a physical definition and a philosophical one. The philosophical definition encompass concepts, ideas, words, etc. But we arent talking about that i presume. The easy answer is plain matter. Something that occupies space and has has mass. Anything outside it it doesnt exist, unless its a philosophical definition. But there is an issue with that definition. You eventually have to ask if space exist physically. Space itself has no mass as far as I know. But there is mass in space. Space is just the container. While it is obvious that mass occupies space, space itself it is just an area. A delimitation. And you have to question if it does exist physically or if its just an abstract concept. Or if its a property of something that does exists. I dont know the answer for that.

Time is the 4th dimension which exists.

Proof: Time Travel Theories though they are not proven yet but incidents are there on net where people say they have experienced "slip time". Some believe them, some don't. Many says it's against the law of physics but there are a lot of things which exist in nature and are totally against the law of physics [Try searching net for it].
[P.S: Time travel is also explained through black hole theory, though no incidents have been recorded for now.]

My belief: Time is calculative like an hour, year, etc. So, if we can calculate something then it exists.

Time is the 4th dimension which exists. Proof: Time Travel Theories though they are not proven yet but incidents are there on net where people say they have experienced "slip time". Some believe them, some don't. Many says it's against the law of physics but there are a lot of things which exist in nature and are totally against the law of physics [Try searching net for it]. [P.S: Time travel is also explained through black hole theory, though no incidents have been recorded for now.] My belief: Time is calculative like an hour, year, etc. So, if we can calculate something then it exists.

"Time Travel Theories though they are not proven"

  • They are proven. For example a star in the constellation Cygnus emits unstable particles that we measure on Earth, though they have traveled for thousands of years. It is also proven with synchrotrons, where electrons reach near light velocity.
"Time Travel Theories though they are not proven" * They are proven. For example a star in the constellation Cygnus emits unstable particles that we measure on Earth, though they have traveled for thousands of years. It is also proven with synchrotrons, where electrons reach near light velocity.

@tpr said ^

"Time Travel Theories though they are not proven"

  • They are proven. For example a star in the constellation Cygnus emits unstable particles that we measure on Earth, though they have traveled for thousands of years. It is also proven with synchrotrons, where electrons reach near light velocity.

You just proved my point.
Hence, TIME EXISTS

As, you can't travel somewhere which isn't there.

@tpr said [^](/forum/redirect/post/oMhSnwBZ) > "Time Travel Theories though they are not proven" > * They are proven. For example a star in the constellation Cygnus emits unstable particles that we measure on Earth, though they have traveled for thousands of years. It is also proven with synchrotrons, where electrons reach near light velocity. You just proved my point. Hence, TIME EXISTS As, you can't travel somewhere which isn't there.

@IS_123 said ^

Time is the 4th dimension which exists.

You need proof to confirm it.

Proof: Time Travel Theories though they are not proven yet.

If they are not proven yet, then they arent proof.

My belief:

Its a belief then.

Time is calculative like an hour, year, etc. So, if we can calculate something then it exists.

I can calculate the volume of a cube of metal. Therefore the volume exists. Yet, I cant give you a kg, liter, or a size of volume. I cant give you volume of anything at all. I can give you metal, or whatever stuff, but I cant give you the volume. What exists is not the volume, its the metal itself, the volume its just one of its properties. Said volume does not exist if said metal does not exist.

As, you can't travel somewhere which isn't there.

Somewhere is not time concept, its a spacial concept, and maybe a matter concept. You can travel to some specific coordinates expecting a tree there. You can arrive to said coordinates and find no tree.

The time factor only applies if you specify that time is a factor too.

There is a car at the stop sign outside my house right now. If I go to the stop sign in 5 minutes, the car most likely wont be there anymore. Or there is a tree in some coordinates right now. If I travel there right now, the tree will be there, but if I travel there in 25 years, it may not be there anymore.

That does not mean the car ceased to exist (the tree might), it just moved. But that does not mean time exists either.

Time appears to be a property of something that does exist and its tied to location and motion.

@IS_123 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/8faChYes) > Time is the 4th dimension which exists. You need proof to confirm it. > Proof: Time Travel Theories though they are not proven yet. If they are not proven yet, then they arent proof. > My belief: Its a belief then. >Time is calculative like an hour, year, etc. So, if we can calculate something then it exists. I can calculate the volume of a cube of metal. Therefore the volume exists. Yet, I cant give you a kg, liter, or a size of volume. I cant give you volume of anything at all. I can give you metal, or whatever stuff, but I cant give you the volume. What exists is not the volume, its the metal itself, the volume its just one of its properties. Said volume does not exist if said metal does not exist. > As, you can't travel somewhere which isn't there. Somewhere is not time concept, its a spacial concept, and maybe a matter concept. You can travel to some specific coordinates expecting a tree there. You can arrive to said coordinates and find no tree. The time factor only applies if you specify that time is a factor too. There is a car at the stop sign outside my house right now. If I go to the stop sign in 5 minutes, the car most likely wont be there anymore. Or there is a tree in some coordinates right now. If I travel there right now, the tree will be there, but if I travel there in 25 years, it may not be there anymore. That does not mean the car ceased to exist (the tree might), it just moved. But that does not mean time exists either. Time appears to be a property of something that does exist and its tied to location and motion.

I don't have time to answer the question.

But cherish the present moment. It's all we ever get.

Fortunately, it lasts for as long as we live, at least.

I don't have time to answer the question. But cherish the present moment. It's all we ever get. Fortunately, it lasts for as long as we live, at least.

@Noflaps said ^

Fortunately, it lasts for as long as we live, at least.

A way to interpret what you just said:

Time only lasts as long as we live, but if we all die, then does time stop? Because "Time is calculative", and there are no humans to calculate it, is it gone, like my sanity after reading every post in this thread?

@Noflaps said [^](/forum/redirect/post/dp9GfeDj) > Fortunately, it lasts for as long as we live, at least. A way to interpret what you just said: Time only lasts as long as we live, but if we all die, then does time stop? Because "Time is calculative", and there are no humans to calculate it, is it gone, like my sanity after reading every post in this thread?

Humans may not be the only consciousness in the universe.

Indeed, I don't believe we are.

I don't even believe we're the most conscious.

On SOME days, I wonder if we're merely the pets of spaniels. Spaniels get to be fed, play all day, chase rabbits. And who does the feeding?

That's right. The less clever species.

Humans may not be the only consciousness in the universe. Indeed, I don't believe we are. I don't even believe we're the most conscious. On SOME days, I wonder if we're merely the pets of spaniels. Spaniels get to be fed, play all day, chase rabbits. And who does the feeding? That's right. The less clever species.

Time exists on Earth, for sure.
Every living cell has a circadian/ circannual rhythm, which is governed by the 24 hour/365 day cycle of our Sun.
Animals use this for hibernation, and Plants for photosynthesis for example. Each might spend more time blooming or hibernating, but all will follow the strict unit of time, which is independant to an observer.

The unit of time is precise, but individual to us, so our judgement or state can alter it. Take a trip in time and nobody else will feel it.

Time exists on Earth, for sure. Every living cell has a circadian/ circannual rhythm, which is governed by the 24 hour/365 day cycle of our Sun. Animals use this for hibernation, and Plants for photosynthesis for example. Each might spend more time blooming or hibernating, but all will follow the strict unit of time, which is independant to an observer. The unit of time is precise, but individual to us, so our judgement or state can alter it. Take a trip in time and nobody else will feel it.