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Stockfish doesn't understand what I do

on that last move , if I invade with 2 rooks it's more Improtant than taking a pawn right away( evaluation after Invading is -1.6, and after taking pawn - 0.9

https://lichess.org/dCVKkVI5/black#55

on that last move , if I invade with 2 rooks it's more Improtant than taking a pawn right away( evaluation after Invading is -1.6, and after taking pawn - 0.9 https://lichess.org/dCVKkVI5/black#55

You may see that in Analysis Board

You may see that in Analysis Board

@aVague said in #1:

on that last move , if I invade with 2 rooks it's more Improtant than taking a pawn right away( evaluation after Invading is -1.6, and after taking pawn - 0.9

Then it seems like Stockfish understood what you did. What's the problem?

@aVague said in #1: > on that last move , if I invade with 2 rooks it's more Improtant than taking a pawn right away( evaluation after Invading is -1.6, and after taking pawn - 0.9 Then it seems like Stockfish understood what you did. What's the problem?

@AsDaGo said in #3:

Then it seems like Stockfish understood what you did. What's the problem?
that his recommendations are different for eval after a move. It's ok, but why don't he sees immediatly?

@AsDaGo said in #3: > Then it seems like Stockfish understood what you did. What's the problem? that his recommendations are different for eval after a move. It's ok, but why don't he sees immediatly?

@aVague said in #4:

that his recommendations are different for eval after a move. It's ok, but why don't he sees immediatly?

For me, Stockfish says Rxb2 and Rdd2 are both good, probably because after Rxb2, White can't stop Rdd2 anyway.

@aVague said in #4: > that his recommendations are different for eval after a move. It's ok, but why don't he sees immediatly? For me, Stockfish says Rxb2 and Rdd2 are both good, probably because after Rxb2, White can't stop Rdd2 anyway.

@AsDaGo said in #5:

For me, Stockfish says Rxb2 and Rdd2 are both good, probably because after Rxb2, White can't stop Rdd2 anyway.
true, but to invade is more improtant, if He had His own Mind, I think He would suggest that xD

@AsDaGo said in #5: > For me, Stockfish says Rxb2 and Rdd2 are both good, probably because after Rxb2, White can't stop Rdd2 anyway. true, but to invade is more improtant, if He had His own Mind, I think He would suggest that xD

The difference depends a lot on depth, for shallow it can be as much as 0.8, later (depth 32) it gets as low as 0.2, only to raise back to 0.7 at 42 and even 1.0 at 45. I can't speak for Stockfish, obviously, but after 28... Rxb2, you can still bring the other rook to second rank if you wish because white has no way to prevent it. But I'm not sure if having both rooks on second rank would be so valuable in this particular position.

The difference depends a lot on depth, for shallow it can be as much as 0.8, later (depth 32) it gets as low as 0.2, only to raise back to 0.7 at 42 and even 1.0 at 45. I can't speak for Stockfish, obviously, but after 28... Rxb2, you can still bring the other rook to second rank if you wish because white has no way to prevent it. But I'm not sure if having both rooks on second rank would be so valuable in this particular position.

with those Rs on the seventh rank, black has at least a draw here. White's R is pretty much stuck on e1 to prevent a bakc rank mate, any Kf1 can be met with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3 and the K-side pawns fall, and the R/a5 isn't winning any beauty prize either. But if white doesn't flag, is there a win? Suppose white protects b2-b3. Black can still go after the K-side pawns with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3, but as soon as one black R leaves the second rank, white is free to threaten something, such as Re7. But then black just returns to Rf2 doubling on the seventh again, and after Re1 then ...Rg2+ is the same trick, picking up g4. Nice work, if you can get it. And there is always the thought of Rh2+ at some point getting the third pawn with the same trick.
Possibly what the silicon sees is winning one pawn on the Qside first before white can protect it, then doubling on the seventh, then going after the K-side pawns. Same plan, based on white's inactivity, but with an extra pawn on the far side of the board. Would the extra pawn be relevant? I'm just guessing.

with those Rs on the seventh rank, black has at least a draw here. White's R is pretty much stuck on e1 to prevent a bakc rank mate, any Kf1 can be met with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3 and the K-side pawns fall, and the R/a5 isn't winning any beauty prize either. But if white doesn't flag, is there a win? Suppose white protects b2-b3. Black can still go after the K-side pawns with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3, but as soon as one black R leaves the second rank, white is free to threaten something, such as Re7. But then black just returns to Rf2 doubling on the seventh again, and after Re1 then ...Rg2+ is the same trick, picking up g4. Nice work, if you can get it. And there is always the thought of Rh2+ at some point getting the third pawn with the same trick. Possibly what the silicon sees is winning one pawn on the Qside first before white can protect it, then doubling on the seventh, then going after the K-side pawns. Same plan, based on white's inactivity, but with an extra pawn on the far side of the board. Would the extra pawn be relevant? I'm just guessing.

@verylate said in #8:

with those Rs on the seventh rank, black has at least a draw here. White's R is pretty much stuck on e1 to prevent a bakc rank mate, any Kf1 can be met with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3 and the K-side pawns fall, and the R/a5 isn't winning any beauty prize either. But if white doesn't flag, is there a win? Suppose white protects b2-b3. Black can still go after the K-side pawns with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3, but as soon as one black R leaves the second rank, white is free to threaten something, such as Re7. But then black just returns to Rf2 doubling on the seventh again, and after Re1 then ...Rg2+ is the same trick, picking up g4. Nice work, if you can get it. And there is always the thought of Rh2+ at some point getting the third pawn with the same trick.
Possibly what the silicon sees is winning one pawn on the Qside first before white can protect it, then doubling on the seventh, then going after the K-side pawns. Same plan, based on white's inactivity, but with an extra pawn on the far side of the board. Would the extra pawn be relevant? I'm just guessing.
Thx for review. I think last Advantage ( about -2) + rook pressure+ extra pawn was enought to make it
but I saw Analysis , it seems like Draw sadly for My Skill( I hoped there was a Win

@verylate said in #8: > with those Rs on the seventh rank, black has at least a draw here. White's R is pretty much stuck on e1 to prevent a bakc rank mate, any Kf1 can be met with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3 and the K-side pawns fall, and the R/a5 isn't winning any beauty prize either. But if white doesn't flag, is there a win? Suppose white protects b2-b3. Black can still go after the K-side pawns with ...Rf2+ and ...Rxf3, but as soon as one black R leaves the second rank, white is free to threaten something, such as Re7. But then black just returns to Rf2 doubling on the seventh again, and after Re1 then ...Rg2+ is the same trick, picking up g4. Nice work, if you can get it. And there is always the thought of Rh2+ at some point getting the third pawn with the same trick. > Possibly what the silicon sees is winning one pawn on the Qside first before white can protect it, then doubling on the seventh, then going after the K-side pawns. Same plan, based on white's inactivity, but with an extra pawn on the far side of the board. Would the extra pawn be relevant? I'm just guessing. Thx for review. I think last Advantage ( about -2) + rook pressure+ extra pawn was enought to make it but I saw Analysis , it seems like Draw sadly for My Skill( I hoped there was a Win

Stockfish has a lot of mistakes

Stockfish has a lot of mistakes

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