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Modern scandinavian isn't bad

@erhoa025 said ^

I think even that black's 6... nb6 after c4 is dubious. 7. c5! and the knight must go back to d7 (d5 is unsound according to teory)
Qxd5 in second move isn't good. 3. nc3! and the queen must move again. what was the point?
And blunder king, stockfish is only 3400 right now. it grews with cirka 30 points per year, so it wil be 3900 for under twenty years

"3. nc3! and the queen must move again. what was the point?"

To activate the queen?
And you are acting like after 3.Nc3 its a +3

The easiest way to check which line is better is to go to Masters Database, 1 year and check whats played more frequently.
And guess what? Qxd5 is played more than 4x times (compared to Nf6)

The winrates: Qxd5- 35% White wins 40% draws 24% black wins
Nf6: 37% White wins 37% draws 25% black wins

Qxd5 is the more popular choice, and has better results for black.
So what should you choose?

Also, in some Nf6 lines its a +0.8
Modern scandinavian isnt bad, but its very weak if you don't know theory.
Qxd5 is simpler in every way possible

@erhoa025 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/22z09nIp) > I think even that black's 6... nb6 after c4 is dubious. 7. c5! and the knight must go back to d7 (d5 is unsound according to teory) > Qxd5 in second move isn't good. 3. nc3! and the queen must move again. what was the point? > And blunder king, stockfish is only 3400 right now. it grews with cirka 30 points per year, so it wil be 3900 for under twenty years "3. nc3! and the queen must move again. what was the point?" To activate the queen? And you are acting like after 3.Nc3 its a +3 The easiest way to check which line is better is to go to Masters Database, 1 year and check whats played more frequently. And guess what? Qxd5 is played more than 4x times (compared to Nf6) The winrates: Qxd5- 35% White wins 40% draws 24% black wins Nf6: 37% White wins 37% draws 25% black wins Qxd5 is the more popular choice, and has better results for black. So what should you choose? Also, in some Nf6 lines its a +0.8 Modern scandinavian isnt bad, but its very weak if you don't know theory. Qxd5 is simpler in every way possible

The queen shalln't be active after only two moves, broh

The queen shalln't be active after only two moves, broh

And the knight should not move 3 times in the first 4 moves.

And the knight should not move 3 times in the first 4 moves.

Anand played 2...Qxd5 in a world championship match

https://lichess.org/UYkhVVPj#4

Anand played 2...Qxd5 in a world championship match https://lichess.org/UYkhVVPj#4

The knight should not move three times in the opening,
@tpr it nessesarilly not may do that

The knight should not move three times in the opening, @tpr it nessesarilly not may do that

"it nessesarilly not may do that"

  • 2...Nf5? 3...Nxd5 4...Nb6
"it nessesarilly not may do that" * 2...Nf5? 3...Nxd5 4...Nb6

Isn't bad does not sound like a ringing endorsement. Somewhere between the Ruy Lopez and the St George on the spectrum.

Isn't bad does not sound like a ringing endorsement. Somewhere between the Ruy Lopez and the St George on the spectrum.

it's nf6 not nf5
3.nxd5?
The right thing is 3...c6!
And black leads in development after 4. dxc6 nxc6

it's nf6 not nf5 3.nxd5? The right thing is 3...c6! And black leads in development after 4. dxc6 nxc6

"The right thing is 3...c6!"

  • A pawn down for nothing.
    https://lichess.org/BUoYzXn3#6
"The right thing is 3...c6!" * A pawn down for nothing. https://lichess.org/BUoYzXn3#6

https://lichess.org/study/Xkt4NnAt/MW3wR7Q0
heres for an example, where Magnus wins with the modern Scandi, Scandi was quite popular some years ago at GM level, what it does, it makes for very drawish games and closed positions, that is why it is not popular anymore, there is no evidence that it is a guaranteed win for white, this is some engine bull, people dont play like engines

https://lichess.org/study/Xkt4NnAt/MW3wR7Q0 heres for an example, where Magnus wins with the modern Scandi, Scandi was quite popular some years ago at GM level, what it does, it makes for very drawish games and closed positions, that is why it is not popular anymore, there is no evidence that it is a guaranteed win for white, this is some engine bull, people dont play like engines