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Humanity is dying, and nobody seems to care :O

Title: 'Humanity is dying' ~ Good; humans are evil and it is time for a reset.


(@)AveraWyvern: 'The world doesn't seem as nice as it used to be.' ~ When was humanity a good species? When you were being told, 'Humans are great people' by your weak-minded parents who were grooming you into becoming a smile machine for them because they knew the truth and wanted to use you as a shallow reflection of who they want to be?

Here is the truth about society: When we pay taxes, we are supporting the legal, non-consensual abuse of innocent people:

• Schools are there to brainwash us so that we do not realize the truth: We are legally nothing but slaves and war-fodder for the government.

• Some countries forbid same-sex relationships because such couples cannot produce slaves.

• If you are not a productive slave, then you will be force-fed medicine in a mental hospital until you are fixed (or abandoned because the government deems you to be a lost cause). Hospital employees who legally abuse innocent people ---including children--- are worse than murderers.

How can this be fixed? Abolish the concept of, 'society.'

Title: 'Humanity is dying' ~ Good; humans are evil and it is time for a reset. *** (@)AveraWyvern: 'The world doesn't seem as nice as it used to be.' ~ When was humanity a good species? When you were being told, 'Humans are great people' by your weak-minded parents who were grooming you into becoming a smile machine for them because they knew the truth and wanted to use you as a shallow reflection of who they want to be? Here is the truth about society: When we pay taxes, we are supporting the legal, non-consensual abuse of innocent people: • Schools are there to brainwash us so that we do not realize the truth: We are legally nothing but slaves and war-fodder for the government. • Some countries forbid same-sex relationships because such couples cannot produce slaves. • If you are not a productive slave, then you will be force-fed medicine in a mental hospital until you are fixed (or abandoned because the government deems you to be a lost cause). Hospital employees who legally abuse innocent people ---including children--- are worse than murderers. How can this be fixed? Abolish the concept of, 'society.'

A mixture of convenience, products and algorithms that are addictive in just the right way, and a debilitating pandemic that is affecting millions around the world. What a perfect mix, sadly.
At the same time, this is affecting a low enough percentage (1% or 2%?) that society can afford "not to care". Take this article: https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/articles/crd6dj26v4e4o
That article estimates the number of affected individuals in the UK could be half a million; which means, world-wide, it could be several millions. A figure that is large enough to be called a genocide in a war context, but since more than 90% of people are unaffected, it is just taken as the "price of doing business". This is sad beyond belief.

A mixture of convenience, products and algorithms that are addictive in just the right way, and a debilitating pandemic that is affecting millions around the world. What a perfect mix, sadly. At the same time, this is affecting a low enough percentage (1% or 2%?) that society can afford "not to care". Take this article: https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/articles/crd6dj26v4e4o That article estimates the number of affected individuals in the UK could be half a million; which means, world-wide, it could be several millions. A figure that is large enough to be called a genocide in a war context, but since more than 90% of people are unaffected, it is just taken as the "price of doing business". This is sad beyond belief.

(@)shadow1414:

Humans are not evil, merely broken. I don't know what you experienced to make you think what you think, but here is the truth: you need to stop passing off your fringe, conspiracist, misanthrope, anti-humanity, anti-religious, anti-education views as the truth. Humanity may not be perfect but nothing in this world is. And I say the sooner you realise that it is completely unreasonable to portray us as utterly vile irredeemable monsters, the better. That said, I pray for the healing of your soul; may you find peace.

(@)shadow1414: Humans are not evil, merely broken. I don't know what you experienced to make you think what you think, but here is the truth: you need to stop passing off your fringe, conspiracist, misanthrope, anti-humanity, anti-religious, anti-education views as the truth. Humanity may not be perfect but nothing in this world is. And I say the sooner you realise that it is completely unreasonable to portray us as utterly vile irredeemable monsters, the better. That said, I pray for the healing of your soul; may you find peace.

@whatismymainbro said ^

Well you see, I do care, I WANT humanity to die out.

No you don’t. There is almost no logical reason to want that, and you likely do not understand the consequences of this supposedly ideal scenario.
@AveraWyvern said ^

This is something I've been thinking about, and I could be wrong. I feel that humanity is fading from our society. The world doesn't seem as nice as it used to be.

This is partially because on social media, people can be more toxic, and since social media is such a huge part of daily life now, it’s also kind of translated in that.

There are many possible reasons including AI slop, social media, and technology in general.

AI Slop in second, with social media in first. Technology is not inherently bad; I think you’re referring to digital technology (the wheel is also considered technology).

I'm not saying these things are bad, but I think they've affected us in ways we don't even realize. And these aren't the only reasons- there are so many little things that, when combined, can have a huge impact on society. What do you think? :p

More or less, I agree. People seem to be getting more toxic and rude, holding more controversial opinions, and exhibiting attention-seeking behavior and bizarre performative tendencies.

@whatismymainbro said [^](/forum/redirect/post/TNMGboT2) > Well you see, I do care, I WANT humanity to die out. No you don’t. There is almost no logical reason to want that, and you likely do not understand the consequences of this supposedly ideal scenario. @AveraWyvern said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Ew3YKWSl) > This is something I've been thinking about, and I could be wrong. I feel that humanity is fading from our society. The world doesn't seem as nice as it used to be. This is partially because on social media, people can be more toxic, and since social media is such a huge part of daily life now, it’s also kind of translated in that. > There are many possible reasons including AI slop, social media, and technology in general. AI Slop in second, with social media in first. Technology is not inherently bad; I think you’re referring to digital technology (the wheel is also considered technology). > I'm not saying these things are bad, but I think they've affected us in ways we don't even realize. And these aren't the only reasons- there are so many little things that, when combined, can have a huge impact on society. What do you think? :p More or less, I agree. People seem to be getting more toxic and rude, holding more controversial opinions, and exhibiting attention-seeking behavior and bizarre performative tendencies.

Aren’t we ourselves human?

Aren’t we ourselves human?

@AveraWyvern said ^

Well you see, I do care, I WANT humanity to die out.

There were simpler ways to say you disagree.

But i like the complex ;)

@AveraWyvern said [^](/forum/redirect/post/8SdfD48F) > > Well you see, I do care, I WANT humanity to die out. > > There were simpler ways to say you disagree. But i like the complex ;)

(@)IamNOTamod: 'Humans are not evil, merely broken.' ~ (If you believe that, then you might like Monster (2004) and Joker (2019).) I believe that when people hurt innocents, it is usually because they enjoy it; it is less often because they are broken, ill, or ignorant. Even if they choose to do it because of brokenness or ignorance, it is not justified. I am all for evildoers receiving, 'help'; but if evildoers being punished makes the victims feel better, then that punishment is appropriate.

'I don't know what you experienced to make you think what you think' ~ I know what you experienced to make you think what you think: When you were a vulnerable and naive four-year-old, your deluded guardians told you that God exists. You had not been taught anything yet, so you believed the first thing that you were told, and you have not started to use your own brain yet. It is similar to social deduction games: The first person to make a claim might be believed over the second one, even if the second one has better evidence/logic.

'but here is the truth:' ~ There is no proof ---not even evidence--- that God exists. Therefore, God does not exist. (You should watch Kaiji; it will teach you that the only person who you can rely on is yourself. Here is one of Kaiji's quotes: 'Of all the stupid shit, I was praying. I was not thinking about anything; I was begging God. "Save me. Please help me." Seriously? I had already learned the hard way: The only person I can ever rely on is myself. How could I not remember that? Damn it.')

'you need to stop passing off your fringe, conspiracist, misanthrope, anti-humanity, anti-religious, anti-education views as the truth.' ~ You need to stop blindly believing that the government is there to help you and start asking yourself these questions: Why is education legally mandatory? Why is it illegal in some countries to be in same-sex relationships? Why is suicide illegal? Why are people force-fed medicine in mental hospitals?

'it is completely unreasonable to portray us as utterly vile irredeemable monsters' ~ But that is the truth: Humans eat animals, kill nature, brainwash innocent people into becoming war-fodder, etc.

'I pray for the healing of your soul' ~ I prey that you go for a walk; it will actually help.

'may you find peace.' ~ May you find what you should (the truth) instead of what you want (delusions).

(@)IamNOTamod: 'Humans are not evil, merely broken.' ~ (If you believe that, then you might like Monster (2004) and Joker (2019).) I believe that when people hurt innocents, it is usually because they enjoy it; it is less often because they are broken, ill, or ignorant. Even if they choose to do it because of brokenness or ignorance, it is not justified. I am all for evildoers receiving, 'help'; but if evildoers being punished makes the victims feel better, then that punishment is appropriate. 'I don't know what you experienced to make you think what you think' ~ I know what you experienced to make you think what you think: When you were a vulnerable and naive four-year-old, your deluded guardians told you that God exists. You had not been taught anything yet, so you believed the first thing that you were told, and you have not started to use your own brain yet. It is similar to social deduction games: The first person to make a claim might be believed over the second one, even if the second one has better evidence/logic. 'but here is the truth:' ~ There is no proof ---not even evidence--- that God exists. Therefore, God does not exist. (You should watch Kaiji; it will teach you that the only person who you can rely on is yourself. Here is one of Kaiji's quotes: 'Of all the stupid shit, I was praying. I was not thinking about anything; I was begging God. "Save me. Please help me." Seriously? I had already learned the hard way: The only person I can ever rely on is myself. How could I not remember that? Damn it.') 'you need to stop passing off your fringe, conspiracist, misanthrope, anti-humanity, anti-religious, anti-education views as the truth.' ~ You need to stop blindly believing that the government is there to help you and start asking yourself these questions: Why is education legally mandatory? Why is it illegal in some countries to be in same-sex relationships? Why is suicide illegal? Why are people force-fed medicine in mental hospitals? 'it is completely unreasonable to portray us as utterly vile irredeemable monsters' ~ But that is the truth: Humans eat animals, kill nature, brainwash innocent people into becoming war-fodder, etc. 'I pray for the healing of your soul' ~ I prey that you go for a walk; it will actually help. 'may you find peace.' ~ May you find what you should (the truth) instead of what you want (delusions).

@shadow1414

The rest of nature is just as cruel, or even more so than humans. Animals eat each other. However, nature is only beautiful because it is seen through our eyes. Without humans, there is really nothing to save.

@shadow1414 The rest of nature is just as cruel, or even more so than humans. Animals eat each other. However, nature is only beautiful because it is seen through our eyes. Without humans, there is really nothing to save.

Many won't want to hear it, but things go downhill when political extremists rise.

Although it could be a classic chicken and egg problem, and perhaps extremists rise as things go downhill. I'll admit that, because certainty about such matters is hard to obtain. And I'm not incapable of error.

But I think my tentative, originally stated cause-and-effect relationship is valid.

I have noticed (it's not hard) that as extreme Leftists (or, less commonly, extreme Rightists) gain control of a society; that society seems to degrade and fall under stress and sadness, eventually, even as some in business strive to produce and create prosperity and advancements. But extremists can eventually drive such positive influences away, and we see that going on today in some states. Please pay attention to which ones.

Extreme leftists want ever more centralized control, and ever more departure from traditional values. They seem to spread gloom and despair and preach that the world is ending and that things can only be fixed if you give THEM more power and tear up traditional society.

The classic liberal impulse is a good thing. It fought, for example, against the stupidity and evil of racism, when racism was a big nasty problem in some parts of the world.

But outright extreme Leftism is not a good thing. It tends to devalue the individual and elevate centralized government, controlled by a relative few who feel that "the ends justify the means." And "the ends" tend to include keeping themselves and their cronies in power and wealth, even as they preach the value of modest expectations to others. NOTICE which states are having huge problems and getting sadder and more in debt. NOTICE which states tend to waste huge amounts of money on things that get nowhere or even get worse. Giggle.

Are those sad states mostly run by moderates or conservatives, or by Leftists?

It's pretty obvious, really, if one takes an overview. But weirdly, some keep voting the same way, over and over, even while complaining about the results. It's as if they've been conditioned to enjoy the resulting dystopia. Or perhaps they've become so indoctrinated that they think that's "just the way things are and always have to be." There IS a discernable fashion among too many to think that life is hopeless and that children shouldn't be birthed into such a horrible, dying world.

But it's not a horrible, dying world. And in many ways life is much LESS hard now than it used to be. Being young has ALWAYS been a struggle for most. That's normal, and with patience and hard work and optimism it can be overcome -- and it HAS been overcome by billions, for generations on end.

No, not by seizing from others and burning things down. But by continuing with courage and optimism to become useful and dependable and kind. 2026 is much less difficult than 1930 or 1941.

Humanity is not monstrous and is not some awful virus. It's all we've got. And most people are pretty decent and kind. Life can be hard at times, but that's typical of any adventure. As we continue, we typically grow and improve if we don't just give up.

Many won't want to hear it, but things go downhill when political extremists rise. Although it could be a classic chicken and egg problem, and perhaps extremists rise as things go downhill. I'll admit that, because certainty about such matters is hard to obtain. And I'm not incapable of error. But I think my tentative, originally stated cause-and-effect relationship is valid. I have noticed (it's not hard) that as extreme Leftists (or, less commonly, extreme Rightists) gain control of a society; that society seems to degrade and fall under stress and sadness, eventually, even as some in business strive to produce and create prosperity and advancements. But extremists can eventually drive such positive influences away, and we see that going on today in some states. Please pay attention to which ones. Extreme leftists want ever more centralized control, and ever more departure from traditional values. They seem to spread gloom and despair and preach that the world is ending and that things can only be fixed if you give THEM more power and tear up traditional society. The classic liberal impulse is a good thing. It fought, for example, against the stupidity and evil of racism, when racism was a big nasty problem in some parts of the world. But outright extreme Leftism is not a good thing. It tends to devalue the individual and elevate centralized government, controlled by a relative few who feel that "the ends justify the means." And "the ends" tend to include keeping themselves and their cronies in power and wealth, even as they preach the value of modest expectations to others. NOTICE which states are having huge problems and getting sadder and more in debt. NOTICE which states tend to waste huge amounts of money on things that get nowhere or even get worse. Giggle. Are those sad states mostly run by moderates or conservatives, or by Leftists? It's pretty obvious, really, if one takes an overview. But weirdly, some keep voting the same way, over and over, even while complaining about the results. It's as if they've been conditioned to enjoy the resulting dystopia. Or perhaps they've become so indoctrinated that they think that's "just the way things are and always have to be." There IS a discernable fashion among too many to think that life is hopeless and that children shouldn't be birthed into such a horrible, dying world. But it's not a horrible, dying world. And in many ways life is much LESS hard now than it used to be. Being young has ALWAYS been a struggle for most. That's normal, and with patience and hard work and optimism it can be overcome -- and it HAS been overcome by billions, for generations on end. No, not by seizing from others and burning things down. But by continuing with courage and optimism to become useful and dependable and kind. 2026 is much less difficult than 1930 or 1941. Humanity is not monstrous and is not some awful virus. It's all we've got. And most people are pretty decent and kind. Life can be hard at times, but that's typical of any adventure. As we continue, we typically grow and improve if we don't just give up.

@Noflaps said ^

if we don't just give up.

Woohooooo Never gonna give you up!!!!

@Noflaps said [^](/forum/redirect/post/0bXk4oeC) > if we don't just give up. Woohooooo *Never gonna give you up*!!!!