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Lets have a civil off topic discussion, please.

I don't disagree with you strongly, @be-kind-always . But people can have an off-day, or (with time) gain more self-control or wisdom. And, absent genuine defamation, it's not as if we're talking about terribly serious offenses.

If somebody wants to call me a dusty, recalcitrant, antediluvian Pangloss, I can weather the storm. No arms and legs fall off, and, if anything, it helps others to more accurately evaluate the opinions and objectivity of he or she who insults. I have learned not to take the opinions of the frequently outraged too seriously, and I think many (not all) will agree with that.

Indeed, let's hope that's true during the next election. Of course, many will disagree with me and some may even choose to insult me for holding that opinion. Oh, well. They are still members of the wonderful Lichess forum community, one of the finest available online communities on this lovely planet.

And I thank YOU for your objectivity and displayed excellence, as well.

I don't disagree with you strongly, @be-kind-always . But people can have an off-day, or (with time) gain more self-control or wisdom. And, absent genuine defamation, it's not as if we're talking about terribly serious offenses. If somebody wants to call me a dusty, recalcitrant, antediluvian Pangloss, I can weather the storm. No arms and legs fall off, and, if anything, it helps others to more accurately evaluate the opinions and objectivity of he or she who insults. I have learned not to take the opinions of the frequently outraged too seriously, and I think many (not all) will agree with that. Indeed, let's hope that's true during the next election. Of course, many will disagree with me and some may even choose to insult me for holding that opinion. Oh, well. They are still members of the wonderful Lichess forum community, one of the finest available online communities on this lovely planet. And I thank YOU for your objectivity and displayed excellence, as well.

@Noflaps said

I don't disagree with you strongly, @be-kind-always . But people can have an off-day, or (with time) gain more self-control or wisdom. And, absent genuine defamation, it's not as if we're talking about terribly serious offenses.

Interesting point, I think I agree. It is annoying though, and has ruined many threads that could have evolved into interesting discussions. I suppose we can fight against it by weathering the storm, anything that is not affecting the personality of their own by becoming moody and pessimistic is okay.

If somebody wants to call me a dusty, recalcitrant, antediluvian Pangloss...

Unrelated, but you do have a variety of insults in your inventory, don't you? ;)

And I thank YOU for your objectivity and displayed excellence, as well.

you're very welcome <3

@Noflaps said > I don't disagree with you strongly, @be-kind-always . But people can have an off-day, or (with time) gain more self-control or wisdom. And, absent genuine defamation, it's not as if we're talking about terribly serious offenses. Interesting point, I think I agree. It is annoying though, and has ruined many threads that could have evolved into interesting discussions. I suppose we can fight against it by weathering the storm, anything that is not affecting the personality of their own by becoming moody and pessimistic is okay. >If somebody wants to call me a dusty, recalcitrant, antediluvian Pangloss... Unrelated, but you do have a variety of insults in your inventory, don't you? ;) >And I thank YOU for your objectivity and displayed excellence, as well. you're very welcome <3

@morphyms1817 said ^

People are not showing basic consideration today. I don't like getting on a soapbox. But some of these posts are ridiculous.

Welcome to otd buddy

@morphyms1817 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Pfp96sdY) > People are not showing basic consideration today. I don't like getting on a soapbox. But some of these posts are ridiculous. Welcome to otd buddy

Mods are supposed to do more than just be the insult police (although they frequently fail even in that department—check out any clousems vs LegendaryQueen alt forum rumble). They should provide guidance on the rules and they should prevent spammers, etc from breaking the forum.

If someone makes a thread, and a bunch of kids nuke it with shitposts, that’s not okay. It’s basically a denial of service on the conversation. And these aren’t isolated incidents—any serious, non-politics thread (don’t get me started on those) seems to get nuked immediately. Kids see this, think it’s okay, and it becomes a cycle.

@Noflaps In what world is this forum capably moderated? The off-topic section has always been poorly moderated (even mods and admin admit this), but it seems to have sunken lower this year.

Mods are supposed to do more than just be the insult police (although they frequently fail even in that department—check out any clousems vs LegendaryQueen alt forum rumble). They should provide guidance on the rules and they should prevent spammers, etc from breaking the forum. If someone makes a thread, and a bunch of kids nuke it with shitposts, that’s not okay. It’s basically a denial of service on the conversation. And these aren’t isolated incidents—any serious, non-politics thread (don’t get me started on those) seems to get nuked immediately. Kids see this, think it’s okay, and it becomes a cycle. @Noflaps In what world is this forum capably moderated? The off-topic section has always been poorly moderated (even mods and admin admit this), but it seems to have sunken lower this year.

@Anonymous_IIII said ^

(@)Anonymous_IIII: Humans who tell chill people to, 'Chill' are even more annoying than those who keep spamming bullshit like, 'Things will get better.' If you think that complaining about someone's inappropriate behavior is, 'being not chill,' then this is for you: https://lichess.org/page/kid-mode. If/when you become a strong and mature perso...

I hope you’re a kid. Nothing sadder than an adult with a ban-evading alt of a cheater account making cringey shitposts on a chess site.

@Anonymous_IIII said [^](/forum/redirect/post/OfQw51US) > > (@)Anonymous_IIII: Humans who tell chill people to, 'Chill' are even more annoying than those who keep spamming bullshit like, 'Things will get better.' If you think that complaining about someone's inappropriate behavior is, 'being not chill,' then this is for you: https://lichess.org/page/kid-mode. If/when you become a strong and mature perso... I *hope* you’re a kid. Nothing sadder than an adult with a ban-evading alt of a cheater account making cringey shitposts on a chess site.

If you have been victimized by insults in the past, noble @clousems, you have my sympathy. You deserve better.

Actually, you have my sympathy regardless, since I am partial to the clever, and I am certain that you are quite clever enough to "hold your own" against rage baiters without the need for assistance.

But I think the mods do okay. If something is reported, I am relatively confident that they will consider it. And they DO seem to take action from time to time when the situation warrants action. Some rather notable "personalities" seem to disappear from the forum from time to time.

Perhaps they don't always take action to suit everyone, but they are doing a thankless task and have to consider much besides the opinions of some. I think they do pretty well.

I could be wrong, of course, as always. But although I am somewhat frequently the recipient of less than flattering remarks, I find contentment here. ESPECIALLY for the price.

Indeed, if Lichess or its interesting forum were to disappear tomorrow, I would genuinely grieve. This seems to be the single best use of the internet that I have ever discovered. And that is taking into account both the technology to email and the technology to message.

At least here I am not constantly besieged by fraudulent emails and messages warning me (falsely) that I have unpaid parking violations that I must take care of NOW or risk being arrested!

If you have been victimized by insults in the past, noble @clousems, you have my sympathy. You deserve better. Actually, you have my sympathy regardless, since I am partial to the clever, and I am certain that you are quite clever enough to "hold your own" against rage baiters without the need for assistance. But I think the mods do okay. If something is reported, I am relatively confident that they will consider it. And they DO seem to take action from time to time when the situation warrants action. Some rather notable "personalities" seem to disappear from the forum from time to time. Perhaps they don't always take action to suit everyone, but they are doing a thankless task and have to consider much besides the opinions of some. I think they do pretty well. I could be wrong, of course, as always. But although I am somewhat frequently the recipient of less than flattering remarks, I find contentment here. ESPECIALLY for the price. Indeed, if Lichess or its interesting forum were to disappear tomorrow, I would genuinely grieve. This seems to be the single best use of the internet that I have ever discovered. And that is taking into account both the technology to email and the technology to message. At least here I am not constantly besieged by fraudulent emails and messages warning me (falsely) that I have unpaid parking violations that I must take care of NOW or risk being arrested!

@Noflaps

I think the mods do just fine

when the panda is still roaming around unpunished, it's a very wild take that the mods "do fine"

@Noflaps > I think the mods do just fine when the panda is still roaming around unpunished, it's a very wild take that the mods "do fine"

Oh, no, not "the Panda" !

Let me find a bed to hide under. Oh, darn, the spaniel is already under there!

But I know how to get him out. I just have to WALK quietly toward the treat jar. He never fails to notice, even if he is in the other end of the single-wide!

I think spaniels may be paranormal.


Let me point out, I do not think THIS particular post is "spam" even though it deviates in content from the thread title. Why do I think that? Because it replies, germanely (if somewhat insouciantly), to something else posted IN the thread.

I could be wrong, of course. So each should read the terms of service and decide for himself or herself. Or itself or themselves. Whatever the case may be.

Oh, no, not "the Panda" ! Let me find a bed to hide under. Oh, darn, the spaniel is already under there! But I know how to get him out. I just have to WALK quietly toward the treat jar. He never fails to notice, even if he is in the other end of the single-wide! I think spaniels may be paranormal. --------- Let me point out, I do not think THIS particular post is "spam" even though it deviates in content from the thread title. Why do I think that? Because it replies, germanely (if somewhat insouciantly), to something else posted IN the thread. I could be wrong, of course. So each should read the terms of service and decide for himself or herself. Or itself or themselves. Whatever the case may be.

@clousems said ^

(@)Anonymous_IIII: Humans who tell chill people to, 'Chill' are even more annoying than those who keep spamming bullshit like, 'Things will get better.' If you think that complaining about someone's inappropriate behavior is, 'being not chill,' then this is for you: https://lichess.org/page/kid-mode. If/when you become a strong and mature...

Tf

@clousems said [^](/forum/redirect/post/Zw73G0JS) > > > (@)Anonymous_IIII: Humans who tell chill people to, 'Chill' are even more annoying than those who keep spamming bullshit like, 'Things will get better.' If you think that complaining about someone's inappropriate behavior is, 'being not chill,' then this is for you: https://lichess.org/page/kid-mode. If/when you become a strong and mature... Tf

@Cedur216 said ^

@Noflaps

I think the mods do just fine

when the panda is still roaming around unpunished, it's a very wild take that the mods "do fine"

CMON MODS!!!! BAN THAT AAAAAAH PANDAAA

@Cedur216 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/6XQxq2At) > @Noflaps > > > I think the mods do just fine > > when the panda is still roaming around unpunished, it's a very wild take that the mods "do fine" CMON MODS!!!! BAN THAT AAAAAAH PANDAAA